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Re: Apple – Live – September 2014 Special Event

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Ever since Apple originated consumer computer video with Quicktime back in the early 1990s, they've done a great deal to make it better, first for CD Roms and in a proprietary fashion. But when the net came around they opened up their proprietary format to become a standard-- the Mpeg4 file format is the old MOV format. They've also proposed a lot of improvements along these lines for other people to adopt. Like Bonj…

Serious question: what is the state of the art for in-browser live streaming to date ? Twitch, Google Hangouts, any "live" sport event what protocol/technology do they use ? A mix of HLS and flash ?

Twitch uses HLS with a Flash front end. No idea about the others.

HLS is nice because it doesn't require any new servers or protocols -- it uses vanilla HTTP, and can be served up by basically any web server. As a result, it's much easier to make it work with a CDN.

Re: Apple – Live – September 2014 Special Event

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post #299

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A whole bunch of people don't have a job in the morning.

I dont normally agree with these kind of things but honestly this time they deserve it. If this event ( and iWatch ) is really that important ( for Apple ) then this is the biggest screw up ever. Thousands ( possibly millions ) of People waiting and hoping to share the moment together and watching it live and be disappointed. This is the worst user experience ever.

And you really think people should lose their jobs over this? What's wrong with you?

Re: Apple – Live – September 2014 Special Event

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A whole bunch of people don't have a job in the morning.

From the prep of this whole thing, with redirecting apple.com to apple.com/live, I felt it was intended to replicate Steve Jobs's reality distortion field. "If we are going this far out, it must be huge!" Ironically it's showing very clearly that the field has discorporated.

Not everything is about Steve Jobs. There were plenty of tech glitches in his keynotes, including with the live stream (when they rarely did one).

Re: Apple – Live – September 2014 Special Event

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Jobs led them to do it right in the first place. Quality does not happen after the fact.

That's exactly what I meant... Jobs would have made them stress test that system before the event so this does not happen. The most popular company in the world that creates the incredible hype for its events should have made sure the system worked unless they wanted some to feel left out thus igniting jealous resentment.

The majority of past Apple live-streams have had problems, though this one was perhaps one of the worst. It's less an issue of Jobs-era vs. post-Jobs-era, and more to do with Apple's culture of control being at odds with the complexities of network scalability. (They should really just outsource it to YouTube.)

The HTML summaries on apple.com were a nice touch, though, which softened the blow.

Re: Apple – Live – September 2014 Special Event

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post #284

Is it just me or the iWatch "looks" really ugly, at least when compared with Moto 360 which looks beautiful. iWatch may win out on functionality and user experience etc., but it just looks funky.

The crazy part is the Gold 'Edition' Version. It's not like a Swiss watch, which is sold to be passed on to new generations, since your children won't be happy to get such outdated tech. What will they do with old Gold versions? Smelt them?

Re: Apple – Live – September 2014 Special Event

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post #268

First no video, then constant mixing between the TV Truck schedule, a video of the crowd, a video of the presentation screen showing the apple logo, a message showing apple copyright. Refreshed a few times, got 'access denied to server' page a few times. Then got video with Chinese translations talking over the presenter. Then it suddenly stopped, I pressed 'resume' to get the TV truck schedule again. On an iPad.

They need to swallow their pride and just use something like youtube for this.

Yeah, youtube just works.

Re: Apple – Live – September 2014 Special Event

#309
post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ever since Apple originated consumer computer video with Quicktime back in the early 1990s, they've done a great deal to make it better, first for CD Roms and in a proprietary fashion. But when the net came around they opened up their proprietary format to become a standard-- the Mpeg4 file format is the old MOV format. They've also proposed a lot of improvements along these lines for other people to adopt. Like Bonj…

Serious question: what is the state of the art for in-browser live streaming to date ? Twitch, Google Hangouts, any "live" sport event what protocol/technology do they use ? A mix of HLS and flash ?

Yes.

Re: Apple – Live – September 2014 Special Event

#310

First no video, then constant mixing between the TV Truck schedule, a video of the crowd, a video of the presentation screen showing the apple logo, a message showing apple copyright. Refreshed a few times, got 'access denied to server' page a few times. Then got video with Chinese translations talking over the presenter. Then it suddenly stopped, I pressed 'resume' to get the TV truck schedule again. On an iPad.

And who says Apple can't do web services?
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