What I use instead of Google services • Hacker News Board

Re: What I use instead of Google services

#301

Post by monkeypuzzle » Thu, Sep 04, 2014, 5:03 PM UTC

CalRobert wrote: post #261

cik wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe I can oblige here then :) owncloud, owncloud, owncloud! It has CalDAV, CardDAV, and files support. There's even a rudimentary (though scary) online editor with support for openoffice. I use two-factor with owncloud, and happily share files, too. And... it supports an encrypted backend!. Now, if you're happy to host your own mail, you can also look at adding RoundCube. This can solve the Calendar/Contacts/Email/…

Another happy owncloud user here, though the funny thing is what I want it for is specifically NOT syncing - in fact, I don't like that it even tries to sync folders. I mostly want a media player/NAS/photo gallery/mail server (though I might just install a mail server separate from owncloud; I'd still want a webmail interface though).

Just as a thought, what I ended up using for media services is Tonido. There are different ways of implementing it, but mine works as a module directly on my NAS. It's a great media server, the only downside is there's a subscription for some of the bonus features. By default it wants to proxy via their server and wants to do so unencrypted, but you can purchase a license that allows you to disable the proxy feature and encrypt with self-signed certs for $100 per year. Other than that, it has an Android/iPhone app so you can stream music/movies to anywhere you want (provided your mobile connection is up to snuff).

Re: What I use instead of Google services

#302

Post by Oletros » Fri, Sep 05, 2014, 12:03 PM UTC

eevilspock wrote: post #272

Oletros wrote: post #237

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you want a reason? None of your post give any single proof, just some grandiloquent claims. [Too many people here have a salary dependent on advertising, or an identity dependent on Google fanboyism.] Tinfoil too much?

I provided plenty of facts and logic behind my statements. Did you even follow my link? And how do you refute my claims? You label them "grandiloquent" and say I must be wearing too much tinfoil. I bow deeply to your logic, reason and debate skills. It's obvious from your comment history that you're a Google fanboy. And an Amazon fanboy. And an Apple hater. Good luck with that.

> I provided plenty of facts and logic behind my statements.

No, you don't. A claim it is not a fact or proof.

> It's obvious from your comment history that you're a Google fanboy. And an Amazon fanboy. And an Apple hater. Good luck with that.

Well, perhaps it is obvious to people like you, that only have a black and white world and everything not agreeing with you is because a paid shill or a hater.

Good luck with that

Re: What I use instead of Google services

#303

Post by iamgopal » Sat, Sep 06, 2014, 10:13 AM UTC

This is like being in a marriage, your privacy is at risk, but at the same time, if given security and support and comfort, you can actually put your privacy at risk for benefit.

Re: What I use instead of Google services

#304

Post by deepGem » Sat, Sep 06, 2014, 4:42 PM UTC

riquito wrote: post #277

deepGem wrote: post #266

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You gotta be kidding me here. You don't explicitly have to login to any Apple service when you are using Safari. However, when you are using Chrome - somehow if you login to Gmail you are logged in to the browser. You login to gmail on Safari, you are logged in only to gmail. There's a difference. Sorry I don't mean to be offensive but this aspect shouldn't be overlooked.

> somehow if you login to Gmail you are logged in to the browser What do you mean? Can you be more explicit?

Lets say you login to gmail in chrome. You open another tab and there are you are signed in again. This is the google+ crap I guess. The only option is to use an incognito window.

Re: What I use instead of Google services

#305

Post by tobylane » Sat, Sep 06, 2014, 5:14 PM UTC

rtpg wrote: post #218

marrone12 wrote: post #205

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The only difference is that Apple is not an advertising company. Google explicitly uses your information to advertise against you. Apple is not yet in that vertical.

since when is advertising strictly an adversarial arrangement? Websites such as real estate websites are basically just ads, yet it still offers a service (namely discovery). trailers for movies are also ads but I still like watching them. There's a lot of disgusting/misleading behaviour in advertising, but it's not strictly an Us vs. Them proposition.

Real estate websites feature the product obviously, the real estate. With Google's website, your eyeballs on adverts is the product, and it's in Google's interest to know what you like to give you relevant adverts.

When you are a visitor to a website, it's whether you are a customer vs product proposition.

Re: What I use instead of Google services

#306

Post by jancborchardt » Tue, Sep 09, 2014, 1:49 PM UTC

CalRobert wrote: post #261

cik wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe I can oblige here then :) owncloud, owncloud, owncloud! It has CalDAV, CardDAV, and files support. There's even a rudimentary (though scary) online editor with support for openoffice. I use two-factor with owncloud, and happily share files, too. And... it supports an encrypted backend!. Now, if you're happy to host your own mail, you can also look at adding RoundCube. This can solve the Calendar/Contacts/Email/…

Another happy owncloud user here, though the funny thing is what I want it for is specifically NOT syncing - in fact, I don't like that it even tries to sync folders. I mostly want a media player/NAS/photo gallery/mail server (though I might just install a mail server separate from owncloud; I'd still want a webmail interface though).

As also mentioned in the other comment (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8259809 ) we’re working on a webmail interface (simple IMAP client for now): https://github.com/owncloud/mail

Re: What I use instead of Google services

#307

Post by jancborchardt » Tue, Sep 09, 2014, 1:51 PM UTC

ireflect wrote: post #141

ape4 wrote: post #5

I was hoping this was suggestions for services you can host yourself. Switching from Google to Apple doesn't really change much.

Have you looked at https://github.com/al3x/sovereign/ ? Disclosure: I'm a major contributor.

ownCloud contributor here: Just wanted to say major thanks for such a great project! Keep it up and let us know if you need anything from ownCloud – we’re in #owncloud-dev on IRC :)