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Re: Tech Blogger Tries To Cancel Comcast Service, Hilarity Ensues

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There's only one easy way to cancel service with a company like Comcast. You have to lie and tell them you're moving to a city that they don't serve. They don't transfer you to customer retention and you'll be off the phone in a few minutes.

I just hang up and call again. You'll eventually get someone who doesn't care and will just disconnect you. I once had a Comcast agent claim that he needed my father's death certificate to cancel my service! (No it was not under his name, it was always under my name.)

That's the instant that you tell them to escalate to their supervisor.

Re: Tech Blogger Tries To Cancel Comcast Service, Hilarity Ensues

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Why is a gym allowed to demand such documentation in the first place?

I was with Anytime Fitness until I moved, and I could only get out of my contract by sending them a copy of my new driver's license. I was willing to pay the ETF, but they demanded I show them my license in-person to get out, when I was hundreds of miles away. Finally I cancelled the card they were charging, let them sweat for a bit, then called and said "offer me some other way and you will get your money". They the…

Isn't that fairly risky? What if they had passed the account to collections?

Re: Tech Blogger Tries To Cancel Comcast Service, Hilarity Ensues

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I'm in the Bay Area. I recently switched from a Comcast business circuit down to a residential circuit. The Comcast Loyalty Rep was fierce. Insisting I owed them 60 days notice, even though I was in a month to month contract. Told me he had to have me sign paperwork to cancel that was going to take up to a week to e-mail to me. I put up a fight, insisted on a supervisor, whom conveniently was in a Chicago office for…

Out of curiosity why switch back to residential? I've been generally happy with their business service in both MI and FL. Seems like normally you don't have to deal with most of the BS that residential people do.

Re: Tech Blogger Tries To Cancel Comcast Service, Hilarity Ensues

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the only correct response to any sort of intrusive question by a customer service representative is "thank you for your time. transfer me to your supervisor"

"I don't have a supervisor" is a surprisingly common response.

I dealt with this BS during a brief stint with Straight Talk Wireless when I was between regular carriers. I was trying to port my number from Straight Talk to Ting (a wonderful Sprint MVNO) and my account ended up in limbo. Every time I called, I asked to be escalated to the next level of support, and every time I was told that there wasn't a next level, that Tier 1 was it. I pushed it every time, and ended up with a "supervisor" who also read from the prompts, but in a slightly more understandable accent.

I finally got Supervisor Number Three to understand what was going on, and he gave me an entirely different phone number to call, which ended up being their corporate office in India. After talking to three different people there (again, "escalating" laterally) I ended up with someone who claimed to be the director of support, and she was able to unlock my account and allow the port to complete. She said that she had never seen a situation like that before, and assured me that if I ever came back to Straight Talk I wouldn't see this issue again, as they would "fix the porting process" to enable their Tier 1 staff to push the port through.

This entire process took three days of calling from my wife's phone, since mine was in limbo and unusable on either service, and probably shaved several months off my lifespan due to the stress and anxiety over the whole thing. One thing is for sure, I will never, ever use Straight Talk again, I don't care if someone gives me a $600 Straight Talk-compatible phone.

In comparison, on Ting, I call their support line and within three rings I have a real person who has full access to my account and can do pretty much anything I need to with it. Just out of curiosity, I asked a Ting rep how the cancellation process goes if I wanted to go to another carrier, and he said they would help me make the transition as smooth as possible, and would hate to see me go but he wouldn't want to hold me back if another carrier offered better coverage or rates.

Comcast, Straight Talk, and other service companies could learn a lot from them.

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I've had lots of trouble with ISPs before. About a decade ago Bulldog Broadband were the first to offer 8Mb service in London, and at a reasonable price, and they oversold so massively their staff couldn't cope. After a month of no service I called to cancel, and after 45 minutes on hold I gave up. I tried again. And again. Eventually I got through to someone who processed the cancellation. I got an email saying "To…

Hey, shared experience here - I also jumped on that bandwagon, and had the same experience when trying to cancel. By the time they acknowledge my numerous and increasingly furious demands, they'd flogged their customer base to Virgin, who insisted I had a deemed contract with them and couldn't cancel. I went down a completely different route to you, ultimately - I took them to small claims court on the basis that the…

I wonder if you could sell that debt to a collections agency.(I don't know how things work in the UK.)

I'd like to hear the electric meter story, too.

Re: Tech Blogger Tries To Cancel Comcast Service, Hilarity Ensues

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This guys have it rough. I used to call them a lot and I can't recall a single instance where I saw someone raising their voice had a better outcome. The only had a more stressful call. The operator pushes it a lot but consider this: he is probably paid like shit and he probably get commission on how many customers he can retain. Maybe if he loses too many he can even lose his job. Knowing this and knowing that their…

That is a bit like worrying about the innocents working on the deathstar. They know what kind of job it is. They do it anyway.

Very few people have the job flexibility that many of us here on HN have. This may be the best-paying job available to this person, or the only job they were able to get that they can effectively travel to -- regardless, given the unpleasant nature of the work, it's unreasonable to assume that they meaningfully "chose" the job without additional evidence.

Re: Tech Blogger Tries To Cancel Comcast Service, Hilarity Ensues

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I've had lots of trouble with ISPs before. About a decade ago Bulldog Broadband were the first to offer 8Mb service in London, and at a reasonable price, and they oversold so massively their staff couldn't cope. After a month of no service I called to cancel, and after 45 minutes on hold I gave up. I tried again. And again. Eventually I got through to someone who processed the cancellation. I got an email saying "To…

Yikes.

I tried both Speakeasy (now MegaPath) DSL and ClearWire WiMax. They sucked. The 10mbps DSLs downstream sometimes reached up to 200kbps. The TCP/IP behind the WiMax would regularly disappear for hours.

For each, I called to get the RMA (to send their gear back), cancel service, and then I immediately canceled the credit card on file.

Both then sent me to collections. I tried contesting the bills. "Sorry, we don't have any record of you canceling." (You'd think possession of the modems would be a clue.)

Neither have sent these bills to a credit rating agency (e.g. Transunion, Experian), so I've ignored them.

Re: Tech Blogger Tries To Cancel Comcast Service, Hilarity Ensues

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This guys have it rough. I used to call them a lot and I can't recall a single instance where I saw someone raising their voice had a better outcome. The only had a more stressful call. The operator pushes it a lot but consider this: he is probably paid like shit and he probably get commission on how many customers he can retain. Maybe if he loses too many he can even lose his job. Knowing this and knowing that their…

That is a bit like worrying about the innocents working on the deathstar. They know what kind of job it is. They do it anyway.

Sure, but you're not going to hurt the Death Star by screaming at one of the welders and insulting him. How does that help anything?

Re: Tech Blogger Tries To Cancel Comcast Service, Hilarity Ensues

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Yes.

No. 99.9% of the time, the people you get on the phone are courteous and helpful. Comcast is notorious for poor service precisely because it is not the norm. Sanity check: if this happened to everybody all the time, why would it be making the rounds on the internet? Anything that is newsworthy is rare by definition.

Maybe 9 out of 10 calls to customer service are hassle free for me. In addition to which company, the type of issue you are trying to resolve also matters greatly, for example calls concerning payments/billing and cancellation are much more likely to be contentious.

One kind of customer service problem is low-level abuse, for which a particular rep is likely mostly responsible, usually passive-aggressive behavior like putting calls on hold then disconnecting, endless call-transferring, etc. rather than outright lies or verbal abuse.

The other kind which is more subtle involves higher-level systemic dysfunction and neglect: using call centers or neutered in-house support following very strict scripts / with limited means to resolve all but the most basic issues, active support issues / tickets needing attention yet ignored and unresolved for months at a time, per-call wait times of half an hour or longer, fully-automated systems not even giving the option to speak to a live representative.

Occasionally some of the more outrageous instances of problems of the first kind are deemed newsworthy and given media attention, especially when caught on tape.

Problems of the second kind rarely get any sort of media attention at all, no matter how severe. Companies will suffer customer-service-specific reputation damage for systemic problems (Google for example), but never make headlines for it.

Large companies can also be quite savvy when it comes to pr and the media. Higher tier customers, top-plan-holders often have their support issues promoted internally and expedited to an amazing extent, creating plenty of good publicity to drown out any perceptible, notable criticism.

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