The Facebook experiment has failed • Hacker News Board

Re: The Facebook experiment has failed

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Post by gasull » Fri, Jun 07, 2013, 2:56 PM UTC

DanielBMarkham wrote: post #169

Facebook is performance art. It's a phonebook of people I lost contact with many years ago. It's also a quasi-broken emailing list program. It might be a decent advertising platform for small businesses. Don't know. It's not a news feed. It's not stories relevant to me. It's not a way to actually have friends. It's not a place where people create things and share (mostly). People might think it's those things. Hell,…

Nutshellmail lets you use Facebook and Twitter receiving a daily update by email (or more or less frequently if you prefer). You don't need to log into Facebook or Twitter at all.

Also, for a distributed social network, we have Bitmessage:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_dTotavJZ8

https://bitmessage.org/

Re: The Facebook experiment has failed

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Post by taproot » Mon, Jun 10, 2013, 11:09 PM UTC

threeseed wrote: post #97

taproot wrote: post #85

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And that thin veil is held together by its complicated breakups, baby pictures and cat memes. If it wasnt that everyone enjoyed sharing these things id hate to think what might happen. Im in the same boat as you here. And it worries me. Imagine if we had to go back to the old days of using msn status updates and actually having to gasp converse with one another in order to get our fill of socal interaction.

Have never seen a single baby picture or cat meme or anything like it on Facebook. And several of my friends have kids. There is a temptation when people comment on Facebook to extrapolate their experience with the vast array of different societies, social norms, perspectives, ages, interests, backgrounds, maturities etc.

You guys. Almost had me goin for a second.

Re: The Facebook experiment has failed

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Post by cargo8 » Tue, Jun 11, 2013, 4:41 AM UTC

scholia wrote: post #300

cargo8 wrote: post #299

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I'm curious, how many Facebook friends do you have approximately? Two years ago I removed 600 friends, and now I still have 1200 again -__- I think none of the networks are perfect, but I don't use Google+ only for personal connections. There is quite a lot of (photographic and technology, at least) content that is interesting to read. And not to get into any sort of Fanboy war, but which redesign are you talking abo…

I have about 500 Facebook friends, but only about two dozen in a family channel and another two dozen in a Close Friends channel. The bulk are in channels for work colleagues (big company), business contacts, and people I know who live abroad. Today, I wouldn't friend most of the business contacts, but that's ancient history. I've lived in North America and my wife's family is Chinese so we are pretty widely spread.…

Thanks for sharing :) I find Google+ to be useful for sharing photos with people who are not on Facebook, because it still allows you to share with an email address and it works pretty well. Not sure how to do this in FB, but I bet there is a way.

Also, Hangouts is probably the biggest unique thing for Google+. By far the best web-based, free, multi-person video chatting experience IMHO. Not to mention it can be tremendously productive if need be, with in-window document editing and screensharing. It's somewhat based on the video conferencing solution that Google has been using internally for remoting into meetings for a long time.

Re: The Facebook experiment has failed

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Post by scholia » Tue, Jun 11, 2013, 10:07 PM UTC

cargo8 wrote: post #303

scholia wrote: post #300

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I have about 500 Facebook friends, but only about two dozen in a family channel and another two dozen in a Close Friends channel. The bulk are in channels for work colleagues (big company), business contacts, and people I know who live abroad. Today, I wouldn't friend most of the business contacts, but that's ancient history. I've lived in North America and my wife's family is Chinese so we are pretty widely spread.…

Thanks for sharing :) I find Google+ to be useful for sharing photos with people who are not on Facebook, because it still allows you to share with an email address and it works pretty well. Not sure how to do this in FB, but I bet there is a way. Also, Hangouts is probably the biggest unique thing for Google+. By far the best web-based, free, multi-person video chatting experience IMHO. Not to mention it can be trem…

If I want to share by emailing links I use SkyDrive, though most people seem to post pics to Facebook. SkyDrive doesn't change the size or the filenames of your pics, or "improve" them, and I have 25GB of free space.

I agree about Hangouts but it's a non-starter when none of my family is using G+. They use Facebook chat, Facebook group chat, and Skype. Hardly any of them use Gmail, so my chances of moving 30-odd people to G+ are basically zero....

With consumers, technology is a relatively small part of technology choices, and inertia is a huge factor.