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Re: GitHub Actions and Pages are experiencing degraded availability

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Post by dreamcompiler »

askonomm wrote: post #146
zehaeva wrote: post #141

I don't think this portents anything great for software in general. We're a good year+ into the use LLMs for all major bits of software that we all rely upon and GitHub here is down to one 9 of uptime. I've been using GitHub for a _long_ time, my first commits there go back to August 2009!, and I honestly don't recall GitHub going down as much as it has in the last year. I'm sure there's other things happening in the…

To me this correlates more to them being bought by Microsoft, a company known for being seemingly incapable of creating quality software to the point that it's not even funny anymore, and also known for sloppifying all the products they touch.

Microsoft is the General Motors of software.

Re: GitHub Actions and Pages are experiencing degraded availability

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Post by markus_zhang »

betaby wrote: post #260
markus_zhang wrote: post #160

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They definitely managed to create a lot of reliable products. Windows NT was one of them. Up to Windows XP the products were pretty solid and each had visible improvement against the previous one. Their language products were/are still solid IMO. Maybe Visual Studio is sluggish, but we can still use an older version if we want. Plus they put a lot of effort optimizing VSCode, too. Even back in the MS-DOS/16-bit Windo…

> They definitely managed to create a lot of reliable products. > Windows NT was one of them. Disagree. I was admining NT4.0 boxes back then and it was 1. very slow 2. constantly leaking that required weekly scheduled reboots 3. security wise it was nightmare even by that times standard

Thanks for sharing. It was that bad back then? As a consumer user the stability brought by the NT kernel was great back then, but maybe enterprise wise it was a different story? I never worked as a sys admin so can't say.

For the last point what was the golden standard back in the mid-late 90s, if we don't include mainframe/minicomputers? Was it Solaris or BSD?

Now that I think about it, I feel sad that I do not have the technical prowess to compare operating systems :/

Re: GitHub Actions and Pages are experiencing degraded availability

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Post by habinero »

crote wrote: post #300
porridgeraisin wrote: post #155

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For the longest time, I didn't appreciate the "AI-induced traffic" excuse. But seriously, I checked the rough github egress for our lab versus an old log from 2024, and there's an order of magnitude or two difference. From asking around, it seems people all have the gh cli tool and let it loose with parallel tool calls and e.g LLM's polling Actions in a background bash while loop with sleep $TOO_FEW_SECONDS. Some peo…

I honestly don't care either way. Either they are using AI as an excuse to hide their incompetence, or they are constantly going down due to the AI they have been promoting . If your platform can't handle the use patterns of AI, then perhaps don't go around telling everyone to use AI for everything? It's a self-inflicted wound, you could also just not do this. Too bad Microsoft has bet its future on AI not being a gi…

Someone else quoted a 14x increase in load due to AI hammering github. I wouldn't be at all shocked if that was true, considering how much AI tools are DDOSing the entire internet.

That plus migrating clouds is insanely difficult to manage. They're almost certainly drowning in traffic and trying to keep up.

Re: GitHub Actions and Pages are experiencing degraded availability

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Post by habinero »

sharts wrote: post #284
__initbrian__ wrote: post #266

All of the outages make sense to me as scaling issues. Each month, GitHub is getting the amount of commits they’d normally get in a year. And it’s growing > Yup, platform activity is surging. There were 1 billion commits in 2025. Now, it's 275 million per week, on pace for 14 billion this year if growth remains linear (spoiler: it won't.) GitHub Actions has grown from 500M minutes/week in 2023 to 1B minutes/week in 2…

That’s no excuse. Particularly if it affects people self hosting their workers. These are folks that routinely make it a point to press on system design and scalability during interviews. Now they suddenly can’t scale or design systems but we should accept that?

Are you kidding? That's an insane amount of load increase to manage. "Scalability" isn't one thing, especially not at that level, so it's ridiculous to knock them for it. That amount of load ripples across your entire infrastructure.

Re: GitHub Actions and Pages are experiencing degraded availability

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Post by annzabelle »

gnulinux wrote: post #271
ChadNauseam wrote: post #246

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I've always thought it was unfair that the 9 in 9% uptime doesn't count.

"1 nine" tends to mean "90% availability" i.e. 37 days of downtime per year. 9% availability would be an uptime of ~33 days a year, I think at that point, we're pushing the semantics of "available" if the service is down the entire year except one month on average.

I offer a nine fives colo.

Re: GitHub Actions and Pages are experiencing degraded availability

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Post by honkostani »

nickspag wrote: post #219
zehaeva wrote: post #141

I don't think this portents anything great for software in general. We're a good year+ into the use LLMs for all major bits of software that we all rely upon and GitHub here is down to one 9 of uptime. I've been using GitHub for a _long_ time, my first commits there go back to August 2009!, and I honestly don't recall GitHub going down as much as it has in the last year. I'm sure there's other things happening in the…

someone from github posted a usage graph from the last year on twitter a while ago and they were serving like 14x more requests in a matter of months. it's frankly impressive they've kept up.

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Re: GitHub Actions and Pages are experiencing degraded availability

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Post by s_Hogg »

baby_souffle wrote: post #293
PUSH_AX wrote: post #220

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More stable because its vastly less popular.

And if you thought the GitHub actions hybrid mix of JavaScript templates embedded in yaml was a nightmare, I have bad news for you with respect to ADO pipeline configuration documents...

Yeah I went through hell migrating everything from ADO to GH Actions a year or so ago and even after all this I'm not even slightly close to wanting to go back

Re: GitHub Actions and Pages are experiencing degraded availability

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Post by reilly3000 »

yashap wrote: post #66
alamsterdam wrote: post #64

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Mon and Dad (MS) are (generally) pretty solid with uptime. What is happening at GH? Rate of change trying to keep up with new challengers? Over-reliance on AI? Engineers trying to debug slop?

Yeah who knows, would be interesting to hear an inside take if any readers here are also GH devs! They're at 93.91% uptime over the past 90 days, according to https://mrshu.github.io/github-statuses/ , and that doesn't even include today's outage yet. A glorious one nine of reliability.

Yea just try requesting an SLA credit from them. According to THEIR numbers it’s 99.995%. It’s intolerable and I am going to put my full weight behind stripping as much work as we can from GHA as possible, even if leaving GitHub itself is effectively logistically and contractually impossible.

Re: GitHub Actions and Pages are experiencing degraded availability

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Post by s_Hogg »

alamsterdam wrote: post #176
peterldowns wrote: post #14

Can't wait for the Graphite/Cursor alternative (Origin) to become available. Actions being down for an hour in the middle of the US East workday is crazy. It's super frustrating to be an enterprise customer of Github, seems like we don't get any dedicated resources or additional stability. At this point our only option is self-host github enterprise or move away.

jenkins running on an old Dell under a desk from someone who left the company 18 months ago looks more reliable these days haha

As long as you don't look at it or breathe too hard near it at any time

Source: me

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