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So I'm correct, but this works out in your favor so it's all good? I can ask demagogue questions too you know.
No, you're not correct that this is kind of problematic.
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Stop Killing the Internet: No Digital ID and No Age Verification
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Then why make non-kid hardware unable to access it? This whole idea is ridiculous and would never work in reality.
You've mixed it up. They said make the kids' hardware only able to access kid sites, not make it so only kid hardware could access it.
They actually said:
>Make sure existing and future "non-kid" hardware can't access those kids-only sites.
Which is the inverse of what i suspect they meant.
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I feel like you must have a very restrictive definition of what constitutes “raising” kids if we’re omitting the place where they spend the majority of their waking hours and the people most of their social universe is based in. We’ve had a live experiment with this during COVID and it’s pretty clear that kids raised solely at home by their parents fared way worse. Not just on academic metrics, but basic conflict res…
This is one of those comments where I get your point, but have a couple of big "uhm actually"s :point-up: :nerd-face: I wouldn't think that COVID is a good indicator as this was in no way typical home-schooling. The vast majority of kids were going to school "online," and not schooled by their parents. They were also largely confined indoors with their families all day and all evening. I'm having trouble making my ot…
I didn’t mean home schooling specifically but the assertion, and the general sentiment, that parental input is the only determinant that matters when it comes to the development of children into healthy and well-socialized adults. The family isn’t an island it’s something that exists within its society. The people in it also have communities outside the family—including complicated social groups, people coming from different cultural and subcultural norms, and complicated bureaucratic systems and institutions—that they have to learn to interact with an thrive under. School is a critical part of teaching and socializing them to navigate that even beyond the specific curricular stuff. And beyond school lots of other stuff kids interact with is having a hand in teaching them what to expect of society and what society expects of them.
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They don’t seem to oppose any of that if you read the intro > We call on the European Commission to propose legislation ensuring that digital identity and age-assurance systems used to access online services in the Union remain voluntary, privacy-preserving and non-discriminatory. Citizens must not be forced to identify themselves to access lawful online content or services unless strictly necessary, proportionate an…
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Even if we take your point that internet may be disappearing. A good way to brace yourself is to expand your scope: books, exercise, hobbies, etc. (and probably download a few romsets) will protect you.
You probably don't intend to sound as rude as you do, but to suggest that I don't read or exercise because I think the Internet is a massive boon for social lives is pretty dickish. I boulder, run, play tennis. I read about thirty books a year. I have lots of hobbies. But the Internet has made them better. I write novels. The people who help me with beta reading are online, because no one IRL is interested in what I…
I didn't mean to sound rude at all :(
Re: Stop Killing the Internet: No Digital ID and No Age Verification
#307Earlier quoted context omitted.
Then why make non-kid hardware unable to access it? This whole idea is ridiculous and would never work in reality.
You've mixed it up. They said make the kids' hardware only able to access kid sites, not make it so only kid hardware could access it.
> Make sure existing and future "non-kid" hardware can't access those kids-only sites.
No I didn't.
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#309I have a hard time figuring out whether most of the comments are genuine or not. Are you guys really in favor of giving governments and police corps more control and more power so that you are observed, monitored, restricted because "the internet is dead", "think of the children" and "you need to know who to sue"? You guys are joking, right? Right?
"you guys" assumes all people defending this """idea""" (i'm being far too charitable here...) are actual europeans and not a botfarm. (Cue the twitter profile origin country flag thing).
You assumed wrong.