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Texas wins court order to suspend domain name for violating age-verification law

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Re: Texas wins court order to suspend domain name for violating age-verification law

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Post by tzs »

squigz wrote: post #214
tzs wrote: post #203

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm proposing that organizations like that recognize that age verification is going to happen, and try to ensure that when that happens there will be at lease some age verification services that do it in a way that doesn't subject you to a "papers, please" situation every time you go to a website that has to check age. It can be done with either 0 or 1 "papers, please" events per device rather than 1 per website or w…

I hate how quickly some people have just accepted age verification is inevitable.

Look at all the countries with it already or that are in the midst of implementing it [1]. It won't stop there.

Even if the tide turns it is going to be pretty widespread before it ebbs. Why not work to make sure before that happens it is done in a way that protects privacy?

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_age_verification_laws_b...

Re: Texas wins court order to suspend domain name for violating age-verification law

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Post by fwip »

walrus01 wrote: post #59
fwip wrote: post #54

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If you want to keep the domain name you got from a TLD that they control, yes. Or did you mean, like, morally?

But does a US State control a TLD, really? Is that even something that's within the legitimate legal power of an individual state? Previous .com seizures have been done at the federal court level. The federal government reserves the authority to regulate all inter-state commerce. The entire history of how the .com TLD is run by Verisign is federal government related. Doing this at the state court level is as nonsensi…

I agree that it's nonsense. Maybe this will be a wakeup call that the US cannot be assumed to be a responsible steward.

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Post by BLKNSLVR »

15155 wrote: post #277
BLKNSLVR wrote: post #268

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Yeah, that whole setup stinks. It actually gives a great use case to alternative DNS and decentralized infrastructure. Multiple Internets over Internet time. Sadly. Some damage can't be routed around.

Do people care this much about this specific porn site that they are willing to upend global infrastructure? Principles don't make precedent, it takes money and actual interest to do that. The latent ability of the United States to shut off some specific domain within a TLD is never going to cause people at large to say "We'll make our own .com with blackjack and hookers!" In this hypothetical new system, other DNS r…

"They came for the X and I said nothing"

(XXX in this case)

It's the precedent it sets, and especially with the ... sensitivity ... in the US at the moment around 'opinions on things', this feels like it could be the first pebble of an avalanche.

Re: Texas wins court order to suspend domain name for violating age-verification law

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Post by [deleted] »

Bender wrote: post #271
jmclnx wrote: post #68

Well the site does not present Texas in a good light. Their .gov site presents me with this. Looks like they need to worry about their own site instead of worrying about out of state sites. >Warning: Potential Security Risk Ahead > Firefox detected a potential security threat and did not continue to www.texasattorneygeneral.gov. If you visit this site, attackers could try to steal information like your passwords, ema…

If you add this [1] function to your shell and do fp www.texasattorneygeneral.gov What do you see? Do you get the same fingerprint? I get: Testing via IPv4: texasattorneygeneral.gov. 104.18.152.79 104.18.94.91 sha1 Fingerprint=D7:6B:D1:D8:58:5B:16:4A:0B:D8:41:5F:FF:4E:DA:2F:FA:90:4F:4D sha256 Fingerprint=94:4F:66:36:A5:AA:AF:17:3A:FD:9C:B6:F0:79:95:17:62:1C:8A:B8:B3:44:61:DD:61:BB:C1:26:C6:77:4F:0F notBefore=Jul 4 12…

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Re: Texas wins court order to suspend domain name for violating age-verification law

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Post by harshreality »

jmclnx wrote: post #281
Bender wrote: post #271

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If you add this [1] function to your shell and do fp www.texasattorneygeneral.gov What do you see? Do you get the same fingerprint? I get: Testing via IPv4: texasattorneygeneral.gov. 104.18.152.79 104.18.94.91 sha1 Fingerprint=D7:6B:D1:D8:58:5B:16:4A:0B:D8:41:5F:FF:4E:DA:2F:FA:90:4F:4D sha256 Fingerprint=94:4F:66:36:A5:AA:AF:17:3A:FD:9C:B6:F0:79:95:17:62:1C:8A:B8:B3:44:61:DD:61:BB:C1:26:C6:77:4F:0F notBefore=Jul 4 12…

This is what I get: Testing via IPv4: SHA1 Fingerprint=A3:27:99:AA:0A:21:D8:11:B1:86:6E:CC:3A:12:CA:EC:2E:ED:F6:DA SHA256 Fingerprint=0B:77:CB:2F:80:87:98:6B:A8:C3:75:E7:4B:BF:04:4E:C5:5A:CD:00:7A:78:E9:FD:32:2A:72:24:4D:B1:79:EF notBefore=Jul 17 03:19:04 2026 GMT notAfter=Oct 15 03:19:03 2026 GMT Testing via IPv6: But the distro I am using is still on openssl v2, patched with recent updates

try adding -issuer after -dates

the real one is issuer=C=US, O=Google Trust Services, CN=WE1

I hope you meant 1.0.2 or 3.2. There was never an openssl v2 release, so if that's what it's reporting, you have problems.

The program (unitary gigantic bash script) testssl.sh (github) can give you a thorough rundown on the ssl properties of whatever's MITMing you. The other possibility is that cloudflare is unusually serving you an alternate certificate and your ancient openssl and browser are both unable to handle whatever the presented cert algos/extensions are.

Re: Texas wins court order to suspend domain name for violating age-verification law

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Post by MrDrMcCoy »

LoganDark wrote: post #175
walrus01 wrote: post #172

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It also makes complete and total sense that you can sell your body by joining the Marines as an 0311 MOS rifleman/grunt on your 18th birthday, but you're going straight to hell if you have an alcoholic drink before you're 21. I don't know if I've ever met a European who doesn't think the US's alcohol age laws are weird.

Honestly I think the legal age for drinking could be lower if only society treated it better. A lot of drinkers are not only reckless but brought up to be reckless by how society treats them, what society expects of them, peer pressure, etc. Similarly to how I'm salty about having to obtain LSD from black markets instead of having a known safe supply from a pharmacy. I trust my vendor, but the skill to not only find…

I've always been curious what means and criteria one can use to vet a synthetic drug.

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Post by inigyou »

Loughla wrote: post #174
walrus01 wrote: post #172

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It also makes complete and total sense that you can sell your body by joining the Marines as an 0311 MOS rifleman/grunt on your 18th birthday, but you're going straight to hell if you have an alcoholic drink before you're 21. I don't know if I've ever met a European who doesn't think the US's alcohol age laws are weird.

I have a cousin who lives in Illinois and joined the Marines. He's 20 now. He can shoot fully automatic weapons in the military and has won awards for handgun precision and skill. But he can't buy a handgun in his home state or drink a beer. Make it make sense.

Joining the military helps the government achieve its goals. Having a gun at home doesn't, and drinking doesn't. You scratch the government's back, and it'll scratch yours.

Re: Texas wins court order to suspend domain name for violating age-verification law

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Post by inigyou »

MrDrMcCoy wrote: post #306
LoganDark wrote: post #175

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honestly I think the legal age for drinking could be lower if only society treated it better. A lot of drinkers are not only reckless but brought up to be reckless by how society treats them, what society expects of them, peer pressure, etc. Similarly to how I'm salty about having to obtain LSD from black markets instead of having a known safe supply from a pharmacy. I trust my vendor, but the skill to not only find…

I've always been curious what means and criteria one can use to vet a synthetic drug.

Do you mean well-known drugs or new drugs? Tests have been developed for well-known drugs, and at big parties there are often harm-reduction charities offering free or cheap drug testing.

Re: Texas wins court order to suspend domain name for violating age-verification law

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Post by inigyou »

otterley wrote: post #289
inigyou wrote: post #280

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So porn isn't protected speech?

Porn is protected speech, with the exception of CSAM and "obscene" materials. You do understand how exceptions work, don't you? If you have further questions, ask an attorney who specializes in First Amendment law. I also recommend law school.

In Texas, all porn is obscene.
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