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Re: Spain Orders Blacklist of Palantir from Public and Private Companies

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Post by Maken »

somelamer567 wrote: post #198

The Spanish government trusting the CCP over Palantir is wild. The CCP's intolerant, cruel and authoritarian nature is a direct threat to humanity in ways that Peter Thiel could barely imagine in his darkest dreams. The lack of perspective on show here is astonishing. They are destroying trust with vital Western allies -- trust is gained in drops and lost in buckets -- and Lurch and his dodgy friends are clearly out…

You are mixing apples and oranges. The infamous Huawei deal was buying tons of HDD servers. Any deal with Palantir is handling all your data to the NSA.

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Post by pvaldes »

For context: The former Spanish president in the socialist party is being investigated with corruption activities related with Venezuela, happening in the years after he quit the presidency. It is not looking good for him.

On Mars 2026, US Homeland Security played a prominent role in providing sensible info that lead to the prosecution. Apparently they obtained that info after spying on a phone from [person of interest] in Venezuela.

Helping Spain to expose corruption is a good thing of course, but when who does it is, what could be the biggest stronghold of MAGA in US government, we can suspect that they don't do this out of sheer generosity. Trump keeps saying that "is not happy" with Spain, and this corruption scandal greases the path to power for the Spanish equivalent to MAGA party on the forthcoming 2027 elections so... hum

Palantir could be, or not be, related with the leak. In any case blocking it just right now, by the socialist party, would be the logical reaction if they are involved.

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Post by tngranados »

saguntum wrote: post #259
_ink_ wrote: post #5

I really like what Spain is doing recently. If it weren't for climate change, I'd consider moving there.

I'm moving there. Climate change is going to affect everywhere, and yes, a lot of Spain will experience desertification over the course of my lifetime. I am moving from Texas to Spain, though, so I am used to heat from a pure personal comfort perspective. One interesting point is that Spain is well-situated in terms of its energy mix: it's a leader of renewables in Europe. It was also able to negotiate a carve-out fr…

The no AC in Europe thingy is mostly central and north Europe, where, in fairness, it didn't use to get very hot but now have heat waves fairly often.

Spain, Portugal, Italy and other southern European countries have very wide spread AC usage.

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Post by someonebaggy »

GuestFAUniverse wrote: post #276
ifwinterco wrote: post #267

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s not spite it’s just logical - US/Israel are a known bad actor. China is also probably bad, but currently there’s no evidence they’re as bad as US/Israel

China is supplying Russia, which is attacking an European country. Thus, from my POV that sentiment is BS. China is an adversary in a panda costume.

Germany is also supplying Russia, should Spain exit the mostly-Germany-controlled EU?

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Post by tancop »

GuestFAUniverse wrote: post #276
ifwinterco wrote: post #267

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s not spite it’s just logical - US/Israel are a known bad actor. China is also probably bad, but currently there’s no evidence they’re as bad as US/Israel

China is supplying Russia, which is attacking an European country. Thus, from my POV that sentiment is BS. China is an adversary in a panda costume.

china has no political agenda outside of their country (that includes taiwan from their pov). all they care about is staying in power at home and keeping up the economy. they only sell to russia because its a good way to make money.

belt and road, deals with african dictators, selling cars and phones to europe, temu and alibaba, open source llms, all of that is for higher tax revenue. a lot of chinese companies are part state owned so thats another way it directly benefits the government.

even the illegal police stations only exist to make sure overseas chinese communities dont support opposition movements back home. is it a good thing? definitely not, but its also not a threat to the host country as a whole.

the spying they do is either economic espionage thats good for the world (trade secrets should not exist, thats what patents are for) or good old state on state action like everybody else is doing. i bet russia and america each have more spies in europe than china.

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Post by barrenko »

tancop wrote: post #305
GuestFAUniverse wrote: post #276

Earlier quoted context omitted.

China is supplying Russia, which is attacking an European country. Thus, from my POV that sentiment is BS. China is an adversary in a panda costume.

china has no political agenda outside of their country (that includes taiwan from their pov). all they care about is staying in power at home and keeping up the economy. they only sell to russia because its a good way to make money. belt and road, deals with african dictators, selling cars and phones to europe, temu and alibaba, open source llms, all of that is for higher tax revenue. a lot of chinese companies are p…

There is no reason for chinese elite overproduction other than to wage war by other means. They performed acts such as naval blockade of Australia as a show of force when such a thing was deemed necessary.

Europe is bled dry and will cease to exist rather soon if nothing chnages.

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Post by pvaldes »

littlecranky67 wrote: post #9
_ink_ wrote: post #5

I really like what Spain is doing recently. If it weren't for climate change, I'd consider moving there.

Canary Islands are part of Spain and probably unaffected from climate change - we have 19-22°C all year round. If it raises to 25° still pretty livable.

Canary Islands will be affected (severely) for any change on the sea currents. Because the marine trophic chains will change.

A warmer ocean means much bigger storms over the islands. This has both positive and negative aspects.

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Post by pvaldes »

wolvoleo wrote: post #229
littlecranky67 wrote: post #153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The two capitals (Santa Cruz and Las Palmas) are pretty good spot to live in. Tourism focuses on the south on both islands. Las Palmas has a beach with a bit touristic activity, but its not drinking tourism like Mallorca or Benidorm. Combined with nice weather all year round overall a greaet place to live. Very walkable cities, you can do without a car. Due to nice weather, you can always go by bike or scooter. Taxis…

There's very little decent work though. If you live there you're either fully remote which is rare these days, or you work in the tourist industry.

> If you live there you're either fully remote, or you work in the tourist industry.

Or you are a doctor, a teacher, an architect or a bananas farmer. Some of the richest families in the islands just export/import commodities since three generations.

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Post by fluoridation »

Manuel_D wrote: post #257
8note wrote: post #242

Earlier quoted context omitted.

its not partisan politics when both partisan parties increase their use of palantir the actual partisan politics of freedom and making the government's job harder is entirely left out of the politics when the billionaires own all of the politicians, thats not particularly surprising

Is making the government's job hard a good thing? If medicare delivers care half as good as it could have been, that's a good thing? If fraudsters go unchecked because the FBI is stymied, is the country better off?

>Is making the government's job hard a good thing?

Maybe. The government performing its functions more is not necessarily a good thing. What if the government has decided that some of its functions involve torturing prisoners, or disappearing people?

It's strange that you would ask this question like the answer would be an uncontroversial no.

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Post by pvaldes »

stronglikedan wrote: post #133
_ink_ wrote: post #5

I really like what Spain is doing recently. If it weren't for climate change, I'd consider moving there.

I imagine there will be a lot of AC retrofitting across Europe in the coming years. Investment opportunity?

The price of AC gases had skyrocketed by EU laws, and more than half of the bill are just taxes.

Some gases, like ammonia are easy to manufacture, other are being banned by environmental concerns, and other depend on international trade nets that can be shocked at any time if somebody trumped that morning. Investing in AC should depend heavily on the kind of refrigerant used in your product.

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