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VPN ban update for UK households as government looks at 'age-gate'

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Re: VPN ban update for UK households as government looks at 'age-gate'

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Honestly, the UK already shot itself in the foot. Now they're shooting their other foot. And they keep voting for the Labor party... And yet, govt will find it's impossible to regulate the creativity of software engineers.

Tories were in governance from 2010 - 2024. And things didn't exactly improve.

Re: VPN ban update for UK households as government looks at 'age-gate'

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The only (probably) good thing here is that one can at least try to apply Russian experience at circumventing the censorship, where it's currently way more severe, up to the point when entire companies have their workflows disrupted because remote workers can't connect through the VPN (which is blocked). Maybe that will help.

You seriously think the government has a clear, honest reasons, as stated? Companies will be exempt (with remote employees having to identify linking their IP and computer's fingerprint with their real identity), and the next step, after using the law to silencing dissent, will be penalisation.

> You seriously think the government has a clear, honest reasons, as stated?

What made you think that I think so?

Re: VPN ban update for UK households as government looks at 'age-gate'

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Full context: > Ms Kendall told Nick Ferrari: “I told MPs yesterday I'm going to come back to the House with a statement on the issue of VPNs in July. There are very strong views on both sides of this. For some people, it is about privacy, and it is the ability to use that is really held strongly by people. And for others, they say they should be banned because kids are using them to get around. And so I— the main th…

"I want to do the thing that gets me the most votes and carries the least political risk". Note this is not necessarily the wisest thing, or even the thing that objectively solves or mitigates the problem the most. Many such cases...

Democracy is a consent [to be ruled] manufacturing system which defuses head-lopping popular rebellions. It is not for the benefit of the people.

Re: VPN ban update for UK households as government looks at 'age-gate'

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You seriously think the government has a clear, honest reasons, as stated? Companies will be exempt (with remote employees having to identify linking their IP and computer's fingerprint with their real identity), and the next step, after using the law to silencing dissent, will be penalisation.

> You seriously think the government has a clear, honest reasons, as stated? What made you think that I think so?

I inferred this from the attempt at looking at the positive outcomes of that.

Re: VPN ban update for UK households as government looks at 'age-gate'

#305
States have been the most terrible churches imagineable!

No one can be a true Atheist and not also be an Anarchist, and no one can be a true Anarchist and not also be an Atheist [all Scotsmen aside here :^)].

Apostates and criminals are synonymous.

Re: VPN ban update for UK households as government looks at 'age-gate'

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I've been using a VPN in the UK on my laptop and phone exclusively for 20 years, and the state has been working with ISPs to make "connection records" for most of that time. On mobile a VPN isn't always effective in avoid geoblocks. Some apps are able to determine I'm in the UK and still ask for ID - reddit is one for example, if you stumble on to an adult subreddit. Using the web interface avoids this. The UK has al…

>The UK is not shy when it comes to invading your privacy or censoring the Internet.

The sage Eric Blair was a Brit.

Re: VPN ban update for UK households as government looks at 'age-gate'

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post #111

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>The UK is not shy when it comes to invading your privacy or censoring the Internet. Definitely doesn't shy away from doing it! But one thing I find most irritating is that it seems reluctant to say it proud and loud. Look at the situation with 4chan and Kiwifarms. They are basically asking to be blocked from the UK and they refuse to. I can't really say why the onus is put on the websites to enact blocks, but my sus…

The UK is a funny place. 4chan is accessible but IPTorrents is blocked. Browsing with a VPN is a frustrating experience. They are abused by many of their users which leads to circular capture checks and straight blocks.

I recommend deploying the BitMagnet docker (behind a VPN with assurances it is offline if the VPN cuts out).

Censorship-free magnet crawling!

Re: VPN ban update for UK households as government looks at 'age-gate'

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post #45

I've been using a VPN in the UK on my laptop and phone exclusively for 20 years, and the state has been working with ISPs to make "connection records" for most of that time. On mobile a VPN isn't always effective in avoid geoblocks. Some apps are able to determine I'm in the UK and still ask for ID - reddit is one for example, if you stumble on to an adult subreddit. Using the web interface avoids this. The UK has al…

On the mobile apps can check your SIMs country code. This is how bluesky knows the UK users (they used to use IP, not anymore)

Come iToddlers and the Samstung, Pixel [soon Motorola] with GrapheneOS is the way!

Re: VPN ban update for UK households as government looks at 'age-gate'

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post #62

At least we get to raise the next generation of IT geeks because they'll have to understand a bunch of networking basics to watch porn, and might get hooked on it. (on IT)

Israel will be making kill on this, they will unleash their free VPNs to the young people like they did to Iran. UK national security will be like Suisse cheese

Their kompromat-gathering is first class... maybe even the best!

Re: VPN ban update for UK households as government looks at 'age-gate'

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post #52

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What is there to research? Yes, VPNs can be used to circumvent geofences (and by extension, regional age restrictions). Yes, attempting to age-restrict VPNs is at odds with strong privacy guarantees. Privacy is a human right, and one which is essential for effective democracy.

> What is there to research? Probably how they can best attach a license to VPN use like they're doing with TV.

Hi! It sounds like you may have misunderstood the TV license as you seem to be describing it as a recent thing whereas it was introduced 80 years ago in 1946. The point of the license was always to fund broadcast content--not sure how this could apply to VPN use. I think the discussion of VPNs relates to how, if we decided it was appropriate to block foreign sites, you'd accomplish this. As somebody who grew up in the heady days of the early internet this who conversation saddens me, but when you hear for example interviews with the folks running Roblox you can see where these ideas come from....
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