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I told them forced consent was unlawful. 5 years later it cost Elkjop €1.8M

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Re: I told them forced consent was unlawful. 5 years later it cost Elkjop €1.8M

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I agree but please, provide citations instead of a question mark, to make what you believe is obvious actually in fact obvious.

I think the question mark is good enough for such an absurd claim. If the author cares they can find quotes with no effort

I don't think so?

Re: I told them forced consent was unlawful. 5 years later it cost Elkjop €1.8M

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Well the document didn't say "public spaces". I also think they meant public spaces, but it wasn't in the documents. Even then, I do not consent to work as an unpaid actor even in public spaces. I'm ok to be it at conferences, organized coworking parties -- no problem. But my living space when I don't suspect it -- hell no.

It isn't really that onerous, they aren't expecting you to do anything. Rather, they want the right to film commercially on their own property without getting consent of everyone walking by. Many years ago a local casino was being used for a movie shoot, there were signs at the door saying that they're shooting a movie in here, if you're inside the casino it's possible you'll show up in the background of a shot. By e…

This is about the landlords free use of video surveillance, not the cinema.

Re: I told them forced consent was unlawful. 5 years later it cost Elkjop €1.8M

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Can i withdraw consent later? So, attend the interview (to maximise my chances of being offered the job), and then after the application process withdraw consent?

You can withdraw consent later, but I don't see how that would affect data processed before the withdrawal (except that storage is processing and the data would have to be deleted). I don't imagine a reputable employer would have any other use for the data, so the withdrawal of your consent might not bother them much. If your application were successful and you took the job, I expect that would establish contract, ra…

Thanks. Appreciate the thought trail. For an employer, if they delete the data later (if I don't get the job) then I'm ok with that since I'm expecting it to be accessed and used by humans.

Interesting about the website forms that have separate options for each category, I'd always believed this was to wear me down so I click "agree" once instead of changing 98 separate sliders to no.

Re: I told them forced consent was unlawful. 5 years later it cost Elkjop €1.8M

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Doesn't the right to free association solve this? Don't patronize companies that do this.

I'm a traveling healthcare worker, which means every 3 months is both a new contract for work and a new lease for a rental to stay at. So if I'm not willing to complete several hours of training modules uncompensated and before the start date of my contract, I'm within my rights to refuse. But this violation of most states' codes is common practice, and when I inform a new workplace that I'm not going to do it, they…

I thought we were talking about companies that spam you if you're a customer. I don't think we need government force involved.

Re: I told them forced consent was unlawful. 5 years later it cost Elkjop €1.8M

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It's a nice theory, but only works if the company gets caught and fined enough times to make a difference. Even a zillion dollar fine is useless if the law isn't applied. Also, when the fine comes out of corporate coffers, not individuals' pockets, there is less incentive to comply with the law. If you really want results, fines should come out of management's personal bank accounts, not to mention some jail time.

Sure, if the regulator doesn't move to enforce then the law won't have any effect but at least to me that sounds like a problem with the government as opposed to a justification for draconian penalties. Targeting management seems like a tactic that should only be employed where great urgency exists such as life threatening danger. I don't think marketing material is anywhere close to qualifying. I hate my inbox being…

> I hate my inbox being inundated with spam as much as the next guy but that doesn't mean drawing and quartering the perpetrators is justified.

Fining executives is hardly drawing and quartering.

Re: I told them forced consent was unlawful. 5 years later it cost Elkjop €1.8M

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This fills my heart with joy. If only ICO in the UK would do the same.

Well John Edwards just resigned yesterday so maybe you will get a real Commissioner this time - although that said, John was hired specifically as someone who would do nothing, so I guess he did what he was paid to do. He has largely been ostracised by the privacy and data protection community (even at regulatory events) I have seen him wandering around alone and aimlessly at a number of regulatory events, he didn't…

Someone sent me https://e24.no/norsk-oekonomi/i/OkEMRb/433-millioner-i-miste... and I immediate thought of this post.

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Re: I told them forced consent was unlawful. 5 years later it cost Elkjop €1.8M

#307

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Well the document didn't say "public spaces". I also think they meant public spaces, but it wasn't in the documents. Even then, I do not consent to work as an unpaid actor even in public spaces. I'm ok to be it at conferences, organized coworking parties -- no problem. But my living space when I don't suspect it -- hell no.

It isn't really that onerous, they aren't expecting you to do anything. Rather, they want the right to film commercially on their own property without getting consent of everyone walking by. Many years ago a local casino was being used for a movie shoot, there were signs at the door saying that they're shooting a movie in here, if you're inside the casino it's possible you'll show up in the background of a shot. By e…

In that case they might just not film everyone passing by, it's not hard, it's an apartment complex, just max 1-2 people in a frame. Not hard to ask them. Or work as actors themselves. It's not like there's hundred of tenants all at the same time outside to make it hard (and if there's an event just ask everyone coming).

Re: I told them forced consent was unlawful. 5 years later it cost Elkjop €1.8M

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Cliches in general did, llms created new ones even though you may not be adept at recognising them

Lmao at the absolute ego behind that wording

dont tell me you also failed to detect the obvious llm style haha
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