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Re: Microsoft Office 2019 and 2021 for Mac view-only conversion

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Post by avazhi »

altairprime wrote: post #32
____tom____ wrote: post #19

So, do I just disable updates? How do I do that?

As described, the licensing system will fail you into readonly locally unless you subscribe Office Clippy 365, buy Office 2024, apply Office 2021 updates, or (not listed) apply third-party licensing cracks for Office 2019. Presumably we’ll know soon if network firewalling the licensing server helps, but I expect it’ll just delay the intentional failure by a few months at best.

Presumably this will happen to Offica 2021 in two years, too, so it's actually worse than you say.

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Post by AnonymousPlanet »

pmontra wrote: post #158
jmward01 wrote: post #127

This is the new way and we need to stop it now. Forget the 'is it legal or not' arguments, their lawyers will win. Just get mad and tell them this is wrong. Stop buying their #$@#$ software. Block them. This is what is wrong with cars too. Don't want to give them real time data on you and your passengers and instead try to disconnect the modem? Well, no car functionality for you even if it doesn't need it. -get mad-…

> Microsoft is the enemy This made me smile, sadly. I remember when Microsoft was the new darling not many years ago, because of VS Code and WSL and the apparent goodwill about open source. Some people and I, who lived through all of Microsoft, were skeptical and believed that it was only another embrace phase of their EEE pattern. I'm not sure if they are extinguishing something but it turns out that they are squeez…

A lot of developers (and thereby most on HN, I guess) see Microsoft only from the perspective of a private consumer. From the perspective of a normal non-technical company though, Microsoft is this giant that has spread its products throughout your organisation like a cancer and you can never free yourself from it. For Microsoft's main business it's irrelevant if VSCode is mostly open source or not. That is why these gestures never meant anything in the first place.

It doesn't matter if some Microsoft trinkets are open sourced while AD is not and while you still can't connect your open source DNS and DHCP server to a Microsoft domain controller. Or have your open source email client be 100% compatible with the proprietary Exchange protocol.

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Post by tim333 »

glitchc wrote: post #165

Time to get cracking I guess... https://massgrave.dev/

Is that the right product though? I use office 2019 and that says to activate but mine's activated - I need something to stop the remotely bricking.

Maybe deleting the updater will work? (as in https://osxdaily.com/2019/07/20/how-delete-microsoft-autoupd...)

Re: Microsoft Office 2019 and 2021 for Mac view-only conversion

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Post by jen20 »

qingcharles wrote: post #126
DomenicoMazza wrote: post #108

This change would go against multiple consumer guarantees in Australia where it's 1) a right to have undisturbed possession of a product 2) products must be fit for the advertised purpose https://www.accc.gov.au/consumers/buying-products-and-servic... Microsoft would be breaking consumer law if the change goes ahead for the perpetual licenses they sold in Australia

Also, it's Office 2019, but they were officially selling it until the end of 2021, and third-party sellers were selling through their boxed inventory for years after too. So, this isn't even that old a piece of software. And, let's not forget, this is trillion dollar corporation. They could find one of their Mac devs to write an update for this in a week. The negative publicity from this is measured in millions of do…

Presumably copilot could do it in record time.

(Right..?)

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Post by tim333 »

Bratmon wrote: post #144

I genuinely don't understand why anyone would ever make a business transaction with Microsoft. Like, they're up there with crypto companies in the category of "This outcome was so inevitable that if you didn't expect it, maybe you should consider finding a legal guardian"

They provided some good products. I use Office 2019 daily and I used Windows for a decade or two. They do seem to have become more cash grabby in recent years.

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Post by fithisux »

kuerbel wrote: post #285
fithisux wrote: post #259

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What blobs?

I dug a bit deeper after you asked because "compiled or obfuscated code blobs" was the wording from EuroOffice. It doesn't seem like they shipped binary objects hidden inside the editor source tree after a quick glance. I guess they used "binary blobs" in the broad FOSS-maintainer sense, e.g. bundled third-party assets, fonts, generated/minified JavaScript in sdkjs, and possibly precompiled mobile components... Howev…

This is what I saw in their site. Thanks for taking the time to double check. Given the anti-Russian propaganda I am very suspicious. I mostly use Libeoffice + ODT or Latex, but occasionally a researcher shares a docx for review. This where Onlyoffice shines.

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Post by cube00 »

wg0 wrote: post #190

What's with these companies? Netflix and Amazon Prime shoving ads despite charging people. Everywhere you see there's the greed to extract more and more.

Adding ads to Echo Show devices after purchase was a bold move and they seem to have gotten away with it.

https://advertising.amazon.com/resources/ad-specs/alexa-disp...

Similar to Google adding ads to the Android TV home screens after purchase too.

https://www.androidauthority.com/google-tv-star-wars-coca-co...

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