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Re: Ferrari Luce

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Post by krashidov »

nnevatie wrote: post #275
bix6 wrote: post #27

Specs are insane but why does it look like a budget sedan with a cool paint job? This sounds kind of fun. It’s curious they weren’t allowed to drive though.. > But I can say that the Torque Shift Engagement system — which gives the driver five power levels on the right paddle and five engine-braking levels on the left — is one of the most intriguing ideas I’ve seen in an electric car. It doesn’t simulate gear changes…

> It creates an entirely new torque language controlled by the driver Oh wow, sounds like some corporation BS if I ever read some. My EV works by pressing the gas pedal and the torque is right there - not sure what revolutionary new invention is required?

I will say, Teslas usually have too much torque because I feel very nauseous in them as a passenger. Having more fine grained control over the torque profile might be nice

Re: Ferrari Luce

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Post by decimalenough »

onlypassingthru wrote: post #271
qsi wrote: post #251

The Tesla Model S Plaid has similar horsepower (1020 vs 1035), more torque (1050 lb ft vs 730), faster 0-60 (2.1 vs 2.4s), higher top speed (200 vs 193 mph), more range (358 vs 280 mi). For roughly 17% of the price. And it looks the same. What an abomination! (You can probably find similar Chinese EVs that also outperform similarly.)

And the Model S is no longer in production due to poor sales. How many of these $650k family sedans could Ferrari possibly move?

Probably more than you'd think. Lamborghini is selling around 5000 butt-ugly Urus SUVs per year.

Re: Ferrari Luce

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Post by microsoftedging »

Why is every EV these days an amorphous blob? Even Ferraris are being homogenised. Can't believe Ive designed this. Interior is okay, but not special; the exterior though... It looks like any other of the thousands of blob EVs in the market. It's actually so bad

Re: Ferrari Luce

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Post by __m »

komali2 wrote: post #272
Kuyawa wrote: post #208

Horrible. I don't care if it was designed by Armani in his deathbed or Jony Ive himself. It's just horrible. The flat sides, not even reminiscence of the testarossa glorious days. Worse than the tesla truck and that's in the lowest levels of design. Be careful not to take the Jaguar road for there is no coming back.

It doesn't matter if it's ugly, it doesn't matter that the cyber truck is ugly, it doesn't matter if either are good cars. I spotted probably the only cybertruck in Taiwan the other day. It was waiting to turn on a busy road, and people were jogging over to take a picture of it. "Woah cool! Awesome! Handsome!" Lots of stuff like that being said. People share ai slop cat pictures on Facebook. There's HN commenters, th…

subset of hn commenters? The cybertruck is widely ridiculed, also in taiwan.

Re: Ferrari Luce

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Post by nnevatie »

decimalenough wrote: post #294
nnevatie wrote: post #275

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It creates an entirely new torque language controlled by the driver Oh wow, sounds like some corporation BS if I ever read some. My EV works by pressing the gas pedal and the torque is right there - not sure what revolutionary new invention is required?

Driving manual/stick is considered "manly" and a lot of sports car enthusiasts would never drive an automatic. So I presume this multilevel "torque language" bullshit is basically a way to retrofit stick shift into an EV that has no mechanical need for it.

Yes, this must be it. There's no experience like driving a manual with a two-plus ton vehicle.

Re: Ferrari Luce

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Post by King-Aaron »

komali2 wrote: post #272
Kuyawa wrote: post #208

Horrible. I don't care if it was designed by Armani in his deathbed or Jony Ive himself. It's just horrible. The flat sides, not even reminiscence of the testarossa glorious days. Worse than the tesla truck and that's in the lowest levels of design. Be careful not to take the Jaguar road for there is no coming back.

It doesn't matter if it's ugly, it doesn't matter that the cyber truck is ugly, it doesn't matter if either are good cars. I spotted probably the only cybertruck in Taiwan the other day. It was waiting to turn on a busy road, and people were jogging over to take a picture of it. "Woah cool! Awesome! Handsome!" Lots of stuff like that being said. People share ai slop cat pictures on Facebook. There's HN commenters, th…

I have this observation with the influx of soulless SUVs on the road. Every car group you see are always screaming out for manual, rear drive sports cars at an affordable price, but the majority of consumers just want a cube of car that has wheels and can go places. And they buy a new cube every year or two to keep up with the Joneses.

Everyone then complains that the automakers aren't making what they want... But the blame isn't with the manufacturers, the blame rests with consumers and how mindlessly apathetic they are to... basically everything.

Re: Ferrari Luce

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Post by thrownthatway »

margalabargala wrote: post #300
thrownthatway wrote: post #274

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The point of the EPA ranges are to be misleading. The car manufacturers are well aware of what their vehicles achieve in real world usage. It would be trivial for them to give and prospective buyer indicative ranges for any particular geographical area.

You're missing the point. The actual number of the EPA range is imaginary, yes. But it's useful for comparisons. But if we're talking about comparisons between two vehicles, the vehicle with a 122kWh battery and a 280 EPA range will go less far and is much less efficient than the vehicle with a 84kWh batter and a 300 EPA range.

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