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iOS 27 is adding a 'Create a Pass' button to Apple Wallet

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Re: iOS 27 is adding a 'Create a Pass' button to Apple Wallet

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Post by lmz »

jasomill wrote: post #276
alistairSH wrote: post #242

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I worked retail for a bit in high school. I tried to check card vs ID name for about a week before the manager told me to cut that shit out - too many wives, kids, etc using "dad's" card (this was 1994, so it was almost exclusively dad's card - I imagine that's changed in the last 30 years).

Requiring additional ID for low-value credit card transactions is not necessarily good security from a customer standpoint, as it increases exposure to identity theft by store employees to reduce the relatively minor risk of small, easily reversible fraudulent transactions.

Is a card present transaction generally "easily reversible"?

Re: iOS 27 is adding a 'Create a Pass' button to Apple Wallet

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Post by anikom15 »

ravenstine wrote: post #99
Terretta wrote: post #82

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The same is true in a physical card wallet. An 80 year old with early onset challenges can work this wallet, pick a card, and then hold the phone to the reader at a store. It's all co-opting "familiar" actions for them, not tech-like, which means they can do it. The biggest UX issue Apple has for that persona isn't the wallet, it's the lack of physical home button. Everyone in their 70s and up seems to be given pause…

What does an 80 year old (or anyone really) need with more than one or two cards on a daily basis where this would be an issue? Not being flippant; I legit want to know what leads to this. I have multiple cards but there's only one I use 99% of the time, and it's pink so it stands out.

ID, Medicare card, HSA card, SSA benefits card, 401k/pension card, debit card, credit card, AAA card, and that assumes he only has one of each!

Re: iOS 27 is adding a 'Create a Pass' button to Apple Wallet

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Post by k310 »

bdamm wrote: post #206
Terretta wrote: post #82

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The same is true in a physical card wallet. An 80 year old with early onset challenges can work this wallet, pick a card, and then hold the phone to the reader at a store. It's all co-opting "familiar" actions for them, not tech-like, which means they can do it. The biggest UX issue Apple has for that persona isn't the wallet, it's the lack of physical home button. Everyone in their 70s and up seems to be given pause…

First; have you heard of a sharpie? Second; have you tried this with actual 80yr olds with early onset? Because I have. It doesn’t work, not even close. The steps require to get to that point are impossible for an 80yr old with early onset to even get close to. From trust, to setup, to even the stupid double-click with arthritic fingers, it’s fraught with roadblocks. And forget swiping. This is a massive problem. The…

Thank you for bringing this up. I am 77 and techie through and through, but with several ios gadgets mostly on 26, it's a fright trying to swipe. The iphone SE3 has a home button. The Christmas sale ipad has a touch (raised) button. And nuttier than squirrel **, the volume buttons reverse up and down functions when you rotate the ipad. Some controls pull down. Some pull up.

And Apple+ wonder why people cling to older OS versions. It's not change so much as disorientation.

PS. I sharpie everything. Even with myopia, I can't read "best by" dates. It takes a powerful magnifier in addition to my macro lens eyes.(less the glasses) This is crazy. I sharpie the dates at home.

And a bit off-topic, only Trader Joe's provides big readable price labels. I need the phone camera to read prices elsewhere, even with the correct glass prescription. And ingredients? Fuggedaboutit.

UPC could be a starting point for fetching info, but nobody's starting.

Re: iOS 27 is adding a 'Create a Pass' button to Apple Wallet

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Post by nomel »

reaperducer wrote: post #120
basch wrote: post #36

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Pass2U Wallet works great, but like many apps, it really should just be a feature to begin with. You can also make passes for other people and send them / share them. Looks like someone else recommended a competitor Pass4 Wallet as well, may need to go compare.

Pass2U Wallet works great, but like many apps, it really should just be a feature to begin with. The weird thing is that this was a feature when Wallet was first introduced. You could create a URL that would add a pass to a wallet. There were web sites that helped out with it. I still have some of the passes I created this way a decade or more ago.

Pass2U is neat because you can make somewhat arbitrary "Cards" with it. Cards with nice layouts that include QR code, images, titles, text, whatever. I have a card for my drone license, insurance, medical, and a few others. Super handy. It would be neat if they allowed that level of customization in the wallet app itself, but this is Apple.

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Post by marcus_holmes »

lode wrote: post #138
Terretta wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The same is true in a physical card wallet. An 80 year old with early onset challenges can work this wallet, pick a card, and then hold the phone to the reader at a store. It's all co-opting "familiar" actions for them, not tech-like, which means they can do it. The biggest UX issue Apple has for that persona isn't the wallet, it's the lack of physical home button. Everyone in their 70s and up seems to be given pause…

> The same is true in a physical card wallet. Not at all. In my physical wallet, those identical looking cards have different names on them, ie. and for joint accounts. I can also mark them up with a marker, or request a different picture from some banks. In iOS I need to remember that the one ending with 0044 is mine, and 0073 is for our joint account. I have no way to add an alias or distinguish them otherwise. Thi…

I use physical stickers on my cards to tell them apart

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Post by appjeniksaan »

randusername wrote: post #10

What a relief. My awful workaround was photos of all my membership barcodes labeled with a sharpie so that I can search "Gym" or "Library" or whatever to pull them up from OCR indexing.

Some time ago I built a really simple app to do this as well, called PeekCard[1]. But I actually hope Apple Wallet does it better. What I'm wondering about is whether there will be decent barcode support and if it will support widgets.

[1]: https://apps.apple.com/app/peekcard/id6749822787

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Post by baby »

tantalor wrote: post #116
Liquid_Fire wrote: post #63

> A few places where we still help, even after iOS 27 ships: > Google Wallet. Create a Pass is iPhone-only. Roughly half of the wallet-using world is on Android, and our generator builds Google Wallet passes from the same form. What does this actually mean? Google Wallet has had a button to add your own passes for many years. How is the feature described here different?

Yep. Lots of things are supported: https://support.google.com/wallet/answer/12060038 Anything with a bar code or QR code will work. It's not complicated.

I switched to Android for a year last year and moving back to iOS was really painful. A lot of things make so much more sense in Android. I really miss being able to manage notifications granularly directly from the notifications for example, or quickly copy/paste many previous things from my clipboard directly from the keyboard, but what I miss the most is the AI integration, using AI is so painful on iOS

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Post by [deleted] »

PrairieFire wrote: post #261
DrewADesign wrote: post #85

While the author does mention the barriers to adoption, the premise— Apple was waiting for people to do something, but people weren’t doing it— subtly casts Apple as a passive entity in this scenario. The solution seems to be presented as Apple stepping in to make up for Developers’ inaction. If it’s been 14 years and there’s been very little adoption, this is clearly a UX problem. How many small venues or libraries…

Excellent take. Had Apple made a dummy proof "Pass" portal for clubs, venues, etc to use to visually design and manage passes (and maybe even distribute?) when they launched this, I think it would have exploded, and the ecosystem lock in would have just been all that much deeper. But Apple doesn't really think or operate like that. Be really interesting to see how their approach evolves over the next couple years wit…

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