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Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by mh- »

nozzlegear wrote: post #286
cachius wrote: post #242

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Speech to text should work. I regularly have to manually edit the transcribed input. The more special words the more frequent. Completely disregards the context of the current input, for example, on Hacker news might involve special technical and IT vocabulary.

> Completely disregards the context of the current input, for example, on Hacker news might involve special technical and IT vocabulary. Does any voice assistant do this right now? Genuine question, I don't actually know. It sounds useful as long as it's not invasive.

Any of the LLM-based ones should pull this* off - so that's to say.. none of the popular commercially available ones, yet?

Alexa+ does, but I don't use it for anything except kitchen timers and home automation triggers, so I can't speak to how well it works in a longer conversation.

Zoom's meeting notes excels at this, Google Meet is terrible at it. Meet mishears our company name about 90% of the time; various attendee names are a coin toss.

* "this" being: context consideration in speech-to-text/transcription.

Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by coastermug »

simgt wrote: post #76
acdha wrote: post #34

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Who’s doing it better? I have yet to hear from a Google or Amazon user who has a transformatively better experience, and I think that’s why they haven’t jumped so far because they have hundreds of millions of users who have daily habits that they don’t want to lightly disturb.

> I think that’s why they haven’t jumped so far because they have hundreds of millions of users who have daily habits that they don’t want to lightly disturb. I don't think that's part of their decision making, Liquid Glass moved most things around for seemingly not much else than novelty and that's not the first time.

Is Liquid Glass not just a means to slowly force old phones to be obsolete? - My iPhone 11 is fairly slow now and they’ve probably bought forward my next phone purchase by a year

Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by mh- »

nozzlegear wrote: post #281
skeledrew wrote: post #246

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Pretty straight forward on Android at least to wire up a harness that talks to Tasker[0] or another full automation app. [0] https://tasker.joaoapps.com/

The iOS equivalent would be Shortcuts, which, while not as powerful as Tasker depending on the context, is an official Apple feature that most apps support. Claude and ChatGPT both have various Shortcuts hooks, including voice conversation.

The experience of having to tell Siri to "Ask ChatGPT " really sucks, though. It doesn't consistently do it, the handoff frequently just stalls out and you never get a response, the transcription that gets passed to ChatGPT is low quality, etc.

And though I have the feature enabled that should cause it to ask ChatGPT about things it can't answer, that works even less frequently.

But even if all of these things were true, the stuff on your phone you would expect to be exposed to the model as available tool calls, are not. So their efficacy is very limited.

(edit: iPhone 16 Pro Max, if anyone is curious)

Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by mh- »

CountHackulus wrote: post #259
wenc wrote: post #44

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Right now Alexa+ and Gemini are objectively better. The best is ChatGPT voice mode. It understands non English words and accents amazingly well, and even though the LLM model isn’t the full fledged one, I can have deep conversations with it for an hour without it missing a beat.

Alexa+ has been a massive downgrade for me. It's extremely laggy and constantly misunderstands me, whereas the old one never did. "Set a timer for 20 minutes" used to be instant and just work, I did this the other day and it took 10 seconds to respond and set a timer for 10 minutes.

I had the same experience until I upgraded my Echo (we have a few, but the one in the kitchen gets 99% of the voice commands).

Just looked it up in my order history: I went from an "Echo Show 5 (1st Gen, 2019 release)" to a "Amazon Echo Show 8 (newest model)".

Whether I should have needed to upgrade is a separate question, but, yeah.

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Post by dzhiurgis »

rustyhancock wrote: post #11
internet2000 wrote: post #7

> Apple runs on Anthropic at this point. Anthropic is powering a lot of the stuff Apple is doing internally in terms of product development, a lot of their internal tools…They have custom versions of Claude running on their own servers internally. --Mark Gurman, Bloomberg https://x.com/tbpn/status/2016911797656367199

Apple seems to purposefully have decided to sit out the arms race. Probably smart time to rent and not buy if they plan on buying in a downturn.

Wonder how much of it is raw compute constrain. Adding additional 1billion LLM users is near impossible. I spend a lot on tokens and still get throttled.

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thrtythreeforty wrote: post #94
DaiPlusPlus wrote: post #73

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"objectively better" is a subjective statement :) My preference, however, is for a voice-control UX just like I get with my Amazon Echo and "classic" Alexa like I have been for the past 10 years I've been using it: I think I can best describe it as a "voice-driven command-line" just like your OS' CLI shell, which makes its interactions predictable, even if it means I need to "know" what commands are valid in a given…

Here's a question: I don't understand the gap between these LLM powered voice agents vs CLI coding agents, the latter of which are obviously useful and quite resourceful at getting something done when asked in plain English. Seems like an agent given 20-30 tool calls like "read_sms" "matter_command", and "send_email" would be able to work out what to do for things like "set the house to 72° and text Laura that I did…

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Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by nozzlegear »

mh- wrote: post #303
nozzlegear wrote: post #281

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The iOS equivalent would be Shortcuts, which, while not as powerful as Tasker depending on the context, is an official Apple feature that most apps support. Claude and ChatGPT both have various Shortcuts hooks, including voice conversation.

The experience of having to tell Siri to "Ask ChatGPT " really sucks, though. It doesn't consistently do it, the handoff frequently just stalls out and you never get a response, the transcription that gets passed to ChatGPT is low quality, etc. And though I have the feature enabled that should cause it to ask ChatGPT about things it can't answer, that works even less frequently. But even if all of these things were t…

Oh I was just thinking creating a shortcut that you'd tap on your Home Screen/control shade (whatever it's called) to activate ChatGPT, or wire up to the action button. I forgot you can have Siri do the "ask ChatGPT xyz" thing – I agree, that integration sucks.

Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by mh- »

nozzlegear wrote: post #308
mh- wrote: post #303

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The experience of having to tell Siri to "Ask ChatGPT " really sucks, though. It doesn't consistently do it, the handoff frequently just stalls out and you never get a response, the transcription that gets passed to ChatGPT is low quality, etc. And though I have the feature enabled that should cause it to ask ChatGPT about things it can't answer, that works even less frequently. But even if all of these things were t…

Oh I was just thinking creating a shortcut that you'd tap on your Home Screen/control shade (whatever it's called) to activate ChatGPT, or wire up to the action button. I forgot you can have Siri do the "ask ChatGPT xyz" thing – I agree, that integration sucks.

I'd definitely do the former. I don't even think this is specific to ChatGPT or Claude's apps.

There seems to be something about how intents get triggered by Shortcuts on iOS that feels flaky to me. Whenever some app suggests a shortcut (most recently Starbucks promoted a shortcut that orders your "usual"), the success rate when I tap it is It's possible it's uniquely worse on my device, since I haven't done a "clean install" (vs letting the device upgrade flow copy over) in like a decade. But I'm also not up for dealing with the pain of setting up from scratch just to find out it's bad on a fresh profile, either.

Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by dangus »

nebula8804 wrote: post #217
simgt wrote: post #76

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> I think that’s why they haven’t jumped so far because they have hundreds of millions of users who have daily habits that they don’t want to lightly disturb. I don't think that's part of their decision making, Liquid Glass moved most things around for seemingly not much else than novelty and that's not the first time.

Liquid Glass makes sense if this is what they are working towards: https://www.macrumors.com/guide/20th-anniversary-iphone/ They have done this before, release something large early in anticipation of a major shift and iron out issues before the shift happens. Liquid Glass started off a little janky but they appear to have been ironing out initial issues with each update.

It only “makes sense” if you believe this concept also “makes sense.”

Nobody asked for a phone with fake buttons and a fragile wrap around screen.

Nobody asked for the UI to drastically change at random.

I wish smartphone companies would treat their products like they were completed devices with no innovation required. They are fully mature.

Instead, work on making them actually improved in ways that matter rather than trying to find “the next big thing.”

Be more like Toyota and less like Tesla.

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