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Deezer says 44% of songs uploaded to its platform daily are AI-generated

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Re: Deezer says 44% of songs uploaded to its platform daily are AI-generated

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Post by WalterBright »

kiba wrote: post #299
WalterBright wrote: post #291

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The reality is, essentially nobody makes money by creating music. Taylor Swift, you might say, is a billionaire. Is it from selling music? Nope, it's from selling tickets to her shows. People want to see her perform live. A Taylor Swift impersonator would make no money singing the same songs. A cover band wouldn't do any better. It's the same with authoring books. Almost nobody makes any significant money off of them…

I care more about attribution than copyright infringement.

So do I. At least Sid Meyer did that!

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Post by pbreit »

strangegecko wrote: post #47

I'm trying to learn music production with a DAW, sometimes I wonder if I'm wasting my time. Part of my reason for trying this was reading how creative endeavors can be therapeutic (I'm dealing with burnout/depression/cptsd). I'm at the stage where sometimes I make something that sounds good (to me) but I know it requires work (in the "not fun" sense) to finish it and even then, it will likely never be appreciated by…

If no one hears them, do they really exist?

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Post by theamk »

0xfaded wrote: post #60
rectang wrote: post #40

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> I recently deleted a whole bunch of automated tests because if the AI is going to write most of the code then I should test it to make sure it's good! ?? You say you deleted the tests, because you "should test it"? The logic seems inconsistent. Sanity checking LLM-generated code with LLM-generated automated tests is low-cost and high-yield because LLMs are really good at writing tests.

I think LLMs are really bad at writing tests. In the good old days you invested in your test code to be structured and understandable. Now we all just say "test this thing you just generated". I shipped a really embarrassing off-by-one error recently because some polygon representations repeat their last vertex as a sentinel (WKT, KML do this). When I checked the "tests", there was a generated test that asserted that…

You still have to review LLM results.

But LLMs let you skip all the boring parts - setting up harness, writing some initial inputs, adding asserts for every output. And then _you_ get to do actually important stuff, like ensuring square has 4 vertices.

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Post by 8note »

chickensong wrote: post #227
StilesCrisis wrote: post #135

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Uh, have you tried rhythm games? You can scratch the same music-exploration itch with a much lower time commitment and get the same thrill of accomplishment as you improve. There is also a built-in crowd of other players at any skill level that you can share your achievements with. It's not the same glassy-eyed state as you'd get with normal video games, TV, or doom scrolling at all. You will need to focus and clear…

OP said they're trying to nurture their creative drive, which is not the same itch. It's like someone saying they want to learn how to cook, and you recommend they microwave a TV dinner.

you need technical skill to apply it creatively. a rhythm game will help develop rhythm skill, which can then be used to make new rythms creatively

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Post by anderber »

input_sh wrote: post #158

Something's missing completely from both this article and I don't see it mentioned anywhere in the comments: Deezer will tag it and refuse to promote it once it's tagged as such. You're not gonna stumble upon it by leaving the autoplay on and it will not appear on any of its editorial playlists. Quite frankly this problem would be completely gone if every streaming service implemented this same policy. Deezer also do…

I agree with your assessment. I have to say that their Android app is not very good. Serviceable, but not good. I heard their iOS app is better. I REALLY like their web app. Fast and smooth.

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Post by anderber »

lumiukko wrote: post #178
input_sh wrote: post #158

Something's missing completely from both this article and I don't see it mentioned anywhere in the comments: Deezer will tag it and refuse to promote it once it's tagged as such. You're not gonna stumble upon it by leaving the autoplay on and it will not appear on any of its editorial playlists. Quite frankly this problem would be completely gone if every streaming service implemented this same policy. Deezer also do…

Same is true for Qobuz. Pays artists really well, is EU located, but their applications (although they support a lot of platforms) are still a little rough around the edges.

I found Qobuz recommendations really bad too, unfortunately.

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Post by 8note »

strangegecko wrote: post #119
TyrunDemeg101 wrote: post #102

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I 100% agree with this and have found it to entirely be my own drive for learning and creating. For me it is beyond trying to make money or become famous, it is simply to enjoy the journey and the creativity that comes with creating music.

> For me it is beyond trying to make money or become famous, To clarify, when I speak of "approval", I'm not imagining a successful career or financial success. It's much more basic, i.e. having a few people tell me they genuinely like something I created would do that. > it is simply to enjoy the journey and the creativity that comes with creating music. It's unfortunately not simple for me (again, context of long t…

have you told the people around you that you are looking for that support and that its motivating?

I think you will find that creative works are no more fulfilling than bike rides when you actually get into it. There's no separate magic to it, and a good chance you wont remember doing either of them after some time

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