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not if I can help it! https://github.com/scosman/pelicans_riding_bicycles
love this adversarial work
Shhhhh, they're going to be on to us.
Kimi K2.6: Advancing open-source coding
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#302Accessed via OpenRouter, this one decided to wrap the SVG pelican in HTML with controls for the animation speed: https://gisthost.github.io/?ecaad98efe0f747e27bc0e0ebc669e94... Transcript and HTML here: https://gist.github.com/simonw/ecaad98efe0f747e27bc0e0ebc669...
At this point drawing these Pelicans must be in the training data sets.
I’m OK with a Chinese model getting the W. It’s ultimately good for all of us.
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#303Earlier quoted context omitted.
At this point drawing these Pelicans must be in the training data sets.
Could be! Simon wrote about that here though https://simonwillison.net/2025/Nov/13/training-for-pelicans-...
> If a model finally comes out that produces an excellent SVG of a pelican riding a bicycle you can bet I’m going to test it on all manner of creatures riding all sorts of transportation devices.
This relies on the false premise that, if they would include it in their training dataset, it would be perfect. All they need to do is be good enough and better than the other, not perfect.
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#304There is some humor in the fact that china (of all countries) is pioneering possibly the world's most important tech via open source, while we (US) are doing the exact opposite.
I think one of the motivations is undermining US companies. OpenAI and Anthropic are the two biggest players, and are American. Open weights models reduce the power those two big players have over the industry. If the Chinese companies tried to play by US rules and close-source their products then people would mostly use ChatGPT and Claude. So the Chinese companies don't make a ton of profit either way, but by releas…
Is Meta trying to keep the US from making as much profit with Llama? Is Google with Gemma? Microsoft with Phi?
It's much simpler than some flag-waving nationalism.
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#307Early benchmarks show tremendous improvement over Kimi K2 Thinking, which didn't perform well on our benchmarks (and we do use best available quantization). Kimi K2.6 is currently the top open weights model in one-shot coding reasoning, a little better than GLM 5.1, and still a strong contender against SOTA models from ~3 months ago (comparable to Gemini 3.1 Pro Preview). Agentic tests are still running, check back t…
wait why compare 2.6 to 2 instead of to 2.5?
Re: Kimi K2.6: Advancing open-source coding
#308There is some humor in the fact that china (of all countries) is pioneering possibly the world's most important tech via open source, while we (US) are doing the exact opposite.
I think one of the motivations is undermining US companies. OpenAI and Anthropic are the two biggest players, and are American. Open weights models reduce the power those two big players have over the industry. If the Chinese companies tried to play by US rules and close-source their products then people would mostly use ChatGPT and Claude. So the Chinese companies don't make a ton of profit either way, but by releas…
It's mostly only OpenAI, Claude and Gemini may have their unique advantages, but when speaking of models and new paradigm, only OpenAI can do it.
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#309There is some humor in the fact that china (of all countries) is pioneering possibly the world's most important tech via open source, while we (US) are doing the exact opposite.
China is also way ahead in terms of renewable energy while the US continues to tie itself to fossil fuels. The US is pretty clearly in the collapsing empire phase, we are all just pretending like it isn't happening.
Didn't the US very recently pass the milestone of generating more energy from renewable sources than from natural gas? Like within the last week or two?
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what makes you think that china ever gave up its communist goals? I personally see that everything they do aims towards that goal. From the one child policy, the huge amounts of empty apartments they build, the stuff they produce for almost free, the fishing.. open sourcing the models perfectly fits that culture too, it's the means of production
China is a ruthless capitalist country managed by an authoritarian regime. Planning and lack of respect for the individual or the rule of law are not communist per se.
> Planning and lack of respect for the individual or the rule of law are not communist per se.
They just happen to be a feature of every single country that's attempted communism to date. Total coincidence.