I don't think most people in tech are quite aware of the level of visceral AI hatred amongst non-techies. I've personally witnessed the worst Thanksgiving dinnertable fight I've ever seen (after someone revealed that their recipe was AI-generated, a couple people literally spat out the food they were enjoying and threw their plates in the trash), and a divorce (a very solid marriage between two people who were once b…
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Molotov cocktail is hurled at home of Sam Altman
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#302It is a bit scary how people seem to genuinely be OK with violence (see this reddit thread [0]). Is just me or does it feel like the overall "temperature" has gone up. [0] https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/1shugf8/firebomb_t...
This is exactly the point of part one of Fist Stick Knife Gun: A Personal History of Violence , by Geoffrey Canada. Unequal or lack of access to the executive branch of government will create a culture of vigilantism and lends itself to organized crime as a replacement for the policing arm of the state. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fist%2C_Stick%2C_Knife%2C_Gun People become okay with vigilante justice when they see…
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#303Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm not saying that violence is legal -- which is definitely not. But it is part of the "packages" and totally depends on whether the one wants to use. Historically violence has been a very...effective tool. When people feel that law and order do not protect them, some eventually will go "the extra mile" (somehow managers always like this phrase). It's not something we can prevent. It is human nature. I guess super r…
> it is part of the "packages" and totally depends on whether the one wants to use. Could you explain what packages are and what depends on (what?)? > Historically violence has been a very...effective tool. This is dramatic sci-fi for anarchists of all political stripes. The critical reality to understand is that violence is the most ineffective tool, causing catastrophic harm for others and outcomes that the perpetr…
That's pretty rich, since the United States only exists thanks to systemic, deliberate violence on a mass scale against the local population.
Re: Molotov cocktail is hurled at home of Sam Altman
#304It is a bit scary how people seem to genuinely be OK with violence (see this reddit thread [0]). Is just me or does it feel like the overall "temperature" has gone up. [0] https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/1shugf8/firebomb_t...
People are okay with violence when democratic means (if first past the post even counts) do not solve their problems.
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#305Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Abundance and growing the pie for everyone is also an outcome if this is done right. Do you genuinely believe there's any chance that's going to happen?
I do, because the alternative is unthinkable.
Re: Molotov cocktail is hurled at home of Sam Altman
#306I don't think most people in tech are quite aware of the level of visceral AI hatred amongst non-techies. I've personally witnessed the worst Thanksgiving dinnertable fight I've ever seen (after someone revealed that their recipe was AI-generated, a couple people literally spat out the food they were enjoying and threw their plates in the trash), and a divorce (a very solid marriage between two people who were once b…
I've found that most non-tech people are indifferent or, at worst, utterly bored by any mention of AI. The tech people are the ones that have the strongest opinions one way or the other.
Re: Molotov cocktail is hurled at home of Sam Altman
#307It is a bit scary how people seem to genuinely be OK with violence (see this reddit thread [0]). Is just me or does it feel like the overall "temperature" has gone up. [0] https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/1shugf8/firebomb_t...
I'm not saying that violence is legal -- which is definitely not. But it is part of the "packages" and totally depends on whether the one wants to use. Historically violence has been a very...effective tool. When people feel that law and order do not protect them, some eventually will go "the extra mile" (somehow managers always like this phrase). It's not something we can prevent. It is human nature. I guess super r…
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#308Earlier quoted context omitted.
These are message boards. The obvious sentiment, that firebombing attacks are awful (perhaps cut a little bit with "the perpetrator appears to be someone deeply in need of help) is boring. This is an availability bias issue: the only sentiments that actually spool out into threads are edgy. Once you learn to spot these effects, message boards make a lot more sense and are less jarring.
And the same applies to HN? Edgy messages make it to the top, and the reader should learn to react accordingly (in what way?)
Re: Molotov cocktail is hurled at home of Sam Altman
#309It is a bit scary how people seem to genuinely be OK with violence (see this reddit thread [0]). Is just me or does it feel like the overall "temperature" has gone up. [0] https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/1shugf8/firebomb_t...
Not defending them or even Luigi but I would argue a lot of it is the abysmal labour institutions the USA got (lots of union busting, few modern laws against modern exploitation and classical institutions are undermined politically and legally). And the growing class divide in the USA I think is the reason why folks are increasingly seeing violence against the upper class is seen as the only option. Again doesn't mea…
Genuine question: is it?
Re: Molotov cocktail is hurled at home of Sam Altman
#310Earlier quoted context omitted.
> it is part of the "packages" and totally depends on whether the one wants to use. Could you explain what packages are and what depends on (what?)? > Historically violence has been a very...effective tool. This is dramatic sci-fi for anarchists of all political stripes. The critical reality to understand is that violence is the most ineffective tool, causing catastrophic harm for others and outcomes that the perpetr…
> In contrast, the American Revolution was founded on principles of freedom and law [...] did not embrace violence as desireable That's pretty rich, since the United States only exists thanks to systemic, deliberate violence on a mass scale against the local population.