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Re: System Card: Claude Mythos Preview [pdf]

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You have to recoup your training costs though? But I’m sure you would have better option than renting it to the general public if you indeed have a perfected AI

If you truly have an artificial superhuman mind, you don't need to rent it out to profit from it. You can skip to the chase and just have it run businesses itself, instead of renting it to human entrepreneur middlemen.

It could be both? But renting to a few for a really large amount of money would be very low effort for massive revenue, compared to starting new businesses

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I for one applaud them for being cautious.

Being cautious is fine. Farming hype around something that may as well not exist for us should be discouraged. I do appreciate the research outputs.

Don't worry, in 6-8 months the open models will catch up. Or I guess _do_ worry? ;)

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They don’t care about those risks, because they’re unsolvable and would mean they wouldn’t make money/gain power.

Dario Amodei, CEO of Anthropic discusses all those risks in this essay: https://www.darioamodei.com/essay/the-adolescence-of-technol... He seems to care quite a lot?

Not enough to not do it, though. Actions, not words, and the actions are simple: they're building this while promising to wipe out entire industries.

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A jump that we will never be able to use since we're not part of the seemingly minimum 100 billion dollar company club as requirement to be allowed to use it. I get the security aspect, but if we've hit that point any reasonably sophisticated model past this point will be able to do the damage they claim it can do. They might as well be telling us they're closing up shop for consumer models. They should just say they…

More than killer AI I'm afraid of Anthropic/OpenAI going into full rent-seeking mode so that everyone working in tech is forced to fork out loads of money just to stay competitive on the market. These companies can also choose to give exclusive access to hand picked individuals and cut everyone else off and there would be nothing to stop them. This is already happening to some degree, GPT 5.3 Codex's security capabil…

With Gemma-4 open and running on laptops and phones I see the flip side. How many non-HN users or researchers even need Opus 4.6e level performance? OpenAI, Anthropric and Google may be “rent seeking” from large corporations — like the Oracles and IBMs.

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I think the general question is if they'll release it at all, haven't yet read anything stating that they would

Well let me introduce people to a few brand new concepts: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitalism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_to_the_bottom https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arms_race Of course they'll release it once they can de-risk it sufficently and/or a competitor gets close enough on their tail, whichever comes first.

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Combined results (Claude Mythos / Claude Opus 4.6 / GPT-5.4 / Gemini 3.1 Pro) SWE-bench Verified: 93.9% / 80.8% / — / 80.6% SWE-bench Pro: 77.8% / 53.4% / 57.7% / 54.2% SWE-bench Multilingual: 87.3% / 77.8% / — / — SWE-bench Multimodal: 59.0% / 27.1% / — / — Terminal-Bench 2.0: 82.0% / 65.4% / 75.1% / 68.5% GPQA Diamond: 94.5% / 91.3% / 92.8% / 94.3% MMMLU: 92.7% / 91.1% / — / 92.6–93.6% USAMO: 97.6% / 42.3% / 95.2%…

> Combined results (Claude Mythos / Claude Opus 4.6 / GPT-5.4 / Gemini 3.1 Pro) > Terminal-Bench 2.0: 82.0% / 65.4% / 75.1% / 68.5% > GPQA Diamond: 94.5% / 91.3% / 92.8% / 94.3% > MMMLU: 92.7% / 91.1% / — / 92.6–93.6% > USAMO: 97.6% / 42.3% / 95.2% / 74.4% > OSWorld: 79.6% / 72.7% / 75.0% / — Given that for a number of these benchmarks, it seems to be barely competitive with the previous gen Opus 4.6 or GPT-5.4, I do…

Let's be clear: your entire post is just pure, unadulterated FUD. You first claim, based on cherry-picked benchmarks, that Mythos is actually only "barely competitive" with existing models, then suggest they must be training to the test, then call it "odd" that they are withholding the release despite detailed and forthcoming explanations from Anthropic regarding why they are doing that, then wrap it up with the completely unsubstantiated that they must be bleeding subscribers and that this must just be to stop that bleed.

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post #267

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to your last question, yes we should! the issue isn’t us losing our 50+ hour work week jobs, it’s that our current governments and societies seem fine with the notion that unless you’re working one or more of those jobs, you should starve and be homeless.

This is a theory I can't support well beyond hypothesising about what a post-employment democracy might look like, but I strongly suspect democracy doesn't work in a world where voters neither hold any significant collective might and are not producing any significant wealth. Democracies work because people collectively have power, in previous centuries that was partly collective physical might, but in recent years i…

Everyone wouldn't starve in a few months. There is more than enough food and I have faith it'd be given out. The starvation we see today in a world where most genuinely have a chance to get out of it is nothing like a world in which people can't earn an income.

The government only has as much power as they are given and can defend, and the only way I could see that happening is via automated weapons controlled by a few- which at this point aren't enough to stop everyone. What army is going to purge their own people? Most humans aren't psychopaths.

I think it'd end in a painful transition period of "take care of the people in a just system or we'll destroy your infrastructure".

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I am freaking out. The world is going to get very messy extremely quickly in one or two further jumps in capability like this.

Messy in a way that would affect you?

"Internet no longer viable" would affect everyone, probably
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