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Re: Delve removed from Y Combinator

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Post by PeterStuer »

maxbond wrote: post #34

I'm getting the impression that a lot of people in this thread think this is because they violated an open-source license and saying things to the effect of, "they're just the ones who got caught". I also thought that was the scandal initially. (And when it comes to license violations, yes, there's absolutely more where that came from.) But that's just the cherry on top. I don't think they're being thrown out because…

You are overcomplicating this. They were ejected because they got caught. What for or how they got caught, does not matter.

Re: Delve removed from Y Combinator

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Post by blitzar »

dmos62 wrote: post #300
blitzar wrote: post #288

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, if I believed wishes, hopes and prayers affected anything why would I waste the finite quantity of them on random people let alone people I professionally separated myself from? As Donald Draper once said "I don't think about you at all."

If you would rewatch Mad Men, you might notice that Donald Draper is not well adjusted. It's not subtle either. What makes you say that wishes are finite? Do you ration them out to your loved ones?

We have finite time, considering ones wishes towards someone takes a portion of that time even if it is a very small fraction of time.

Re: Delve removed from Y Combinator

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Post by dmos62 »

BugsJustFindMe wrote: post #289
dmos62 wrote: post #170

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You make it sound like wishing harm or wishing wellness are activities while not wishing anything is just the default passive state. To me the default posture is not indifference, but wishing wellness. We throw around words like "interesting", which is a subtle way to say "not normal", which is a subtle way to say that that's not how we would behave and that we think that others shouldn't behave that way either. So I…

> You make it sound like wishing harm or wishing wellness are activities while not wishing anything is just the default passive state. To me the default posture is not indifference, but wishing wellness. It looks like you've misinterpreted both what I said and what latexr said. Allow me to clarify and reorient the conversation back to the original direction... First, neither of us is the universal subject. Your defau…

I agree there's no universal default or normal. That was my point too. We are in agreement that betrayal and purposeful harmfulness don't have a default reaction. I expressed how I choose to react, and you expressed how you choose to react. Our choices don't match, and I think that's ok.

I've not read Siddhartha. I take it you didn't like it.

Re: Delve removed from Y Combinator

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Post by maxbond »

ragall wrote: post #298
maxbond wrote: post #34

I'm getting the impression that a lot of people in this thread think this is because they violated an open-source license and saying things to the effect of, "they're just the ones who got caught". I also thought that was the scandal initially. (And when it comes to license violations, yes, there's absolutely more where that came from.) But that's just the cherry on top. I don't think they're being thrown out because…

> But that's just the cherry on top. That's not the right metaphor here.

What should I have used instead?

Re: Delve removed from Y Combinator

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Post by ubertaco »

huhkerrf wrote: post #121
margalabargala wrote: post #96

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"I wish them well" is an idiom for "I never want to see them again". Kinda like "bless your heart", which means nothing of the sort.

Why do non-Southerners keep insisting on this? Bless your heart can be said sincerely or ironically, like pretty much any other phrase.

Yeah, I get this a lot, especially from non-southern in-laws who think it's a hoot that they've "cracked the code" and can "speak southern". Being repeatedpy stereotyped to your face gets old pretty quick.

For folks who don't know, here's the best explanation I can offer from growing up in the Atlanta area (but well outside the perimeter):

"Bless your heart" is most commonly an expression of sympathy.

Sometimes, it's sympathetic towards the hardship someone's going through (e.g. "and right after his grandma passed, bless his heart.")

Sometimes it's sympathetic to the trouble someone went through (e.g. "oh bless your heart, you didn't have to go out of your way to bring extra! Thank you so much!")

And yes, sometimes it's an expression of sympathy for the fact that life must be hard for you because of your ignorance, stubbornness, stupidity, or arrogance (or some other such stunting quality) (e.g. "and he thinks he can graduate from Tech with those grades, bless his heart," or "bless his heart, I just don't think he's ever had anyone tell him no in his entire life.")

Re: Delve removed from Y Combinator

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Post by woadwarrior01 »

peyton wrote: post #249
woadwarrior01 wrote: post #177

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I'd called out fraud (blatant lying in investor updates) at a VC backed startup where I was a technical co-founder, once. I emailed all the investors and presented all the evidence to them. They decided to not rock the boat and keep my charlatan co-founder. So, I left. Now, the company is slowly bleeding to death.

To be fair, I’m not sure blatant lying in investor updates alone constitutes fraud. There needs to be harm (or the intent thereof) AFAIK. The other party needs to be using that information to make a decision. If you give me a dollar and then later I tell you I’m actually Beyonce, is that fraud? Or am I just a lying sonofabitch?

Lying in investor update was merely the tip of the iceberg. There was lots more, fabricating customer traction pre-investment, paying oneself back-pay for months spent twiddling thumbs pre-investment (before I was involved), etc.

My lesson from the whole kerfuffle was that investors (at least the ones I’d dealt with) prefer hustle over integrity and execution abilities.

Re: Delve removed from Y Combinator

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Post by dmos62 »

blitzar wrote: post #302
dmos62 wrote: post #300

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you would rewatch Mad Men, you might notice that Donald Draper is not well adjusted. It's not subtle either. What makes you say that wishes are finite? Do you ration them out to your loved ones?

We have finite time, considering ones wishes towards someone takes a portion of that time even if it is a very small fraction of time.

If we get into it, I think that beliefs are a better abstraction that wishes. Beliefs structure relationships. How does a person believe that he relates to another person. So when I think of "wishing someone well", it's an English-language nuance that makes it an activity, but in reality it's a choice of what beliefs I hold. And, I find, the only beliefs that are a chore to carry around are those that don't serve me.

Re: Delve removed from Y Combinator

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Post by maxbond »

PeterStuer wrote: post #301
maxbond wrote: post #34

I'm getting the impression that a lot of people in this thread think this is because they violated an open-source license and saying things to the effect of, "they're just the ones who got caught". I also thought that was the scandal initially. (And when it comes to license violations, yes, there's absolutely more where that came from.) But that's just the cherry on top. I don't think they're being thrown out because…

You are overcomplicating this. They were ejected because they got caught. What for or how they got caught, does not matter.

> You are overcomplicating this. They were ejected because they got caught.

I don't see how "they got caught doing X" is more complicated than "they got caught doing Y", but at any rate think it's worth being correct and precise in order to reason from accurate premises. If you absorb a lot of false information you'll start coming to incorrect conclusions and it'll be difficult to understand why. It took me years to unlearn all the bullshit I absorbed from when I used to spent a lot of time watching History channel documentaries.

> What for or how they got caught, does not matter.

So if they were ejected for jaywalking or for murder, that's all the same to you?

Re: Delve removed from Y Combinator

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Post by dangus »

Zak wrote: post #297
dangus wrote: post #294

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This is like saying “that guy would have died eventually if I didn’t murder him.” The corporate shield for accountability is so annoying in this way. Nobody’s ever responsible for things that they did as human beings.

This comment assumes both that Reddit is harmful and the outcomes were predictable. The former is debatable, but I am sure the latter is not true; the founders of Reddit didn't know what they were building. They thought it was a social bookmarking thing for people to find and share blog posts. It didn't even have comments for the first half year. For two more years, self-posts only existed as a hack where the poster…

I’m pretty sure all endless scroll social media has been scientifically proven to be harmful. Reddit also runs a 1:1 copy of TikTok.

I don’t really care to defend the morality of extremely wealthy VC firms like YC. They know the enshittification process that happens with 100% of the companies they fund.

They could create companies with charters and ownership structures that ensure they exist to better the world and make good products as their binding guiding principals, but they choose not to.

More fun with this subject: https://theonion.com/sam-altman-if-i-dont-end-the-world-some...

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