why is a mail client needed in an onboard space computer at all ?
To send email.
Artemis computer running two instances of MS outlook; they can't figure out why
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Re: Artemis computer running two instances of MS outlook; they can't figure out why
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The browser would be far too slow for practical use. Local fist software, which ironically outlook is, would be the way to go.
Does the modern PWA-based outlook even support offline access? I know the old outlook that is no longer being updated does.
Old Outlook still works and is supported until ~2029. We still use it here.
Re: Artemis computer running two instances of MS outlook; they can't figure out why
#303It's insane to me that microsoft licensing for large companies and mission-critical systems operators doesn't include a stripped down version of windows that really just provides the NT kernel and window system. Why on earth is MS telemetry running in space LOL
They likely can't separate that with their spaghetti code.
Re: Artemis computer running two instances of MS outlook; they can't figure out why
#304Earlier quoted context omitted.
I quit Outlook and went to Thunderbird when I upgraded my CPU and Microsoft told me I had to re-purchase Outlook when I had paid for a "lifetime license". That was the last straw for me. I installed Linux and Thunderbird and have not looked back at Windows.
Obligatory Linux comment when speaking about Microsoft, windows or anything related. I don't have Linux but you guys make it hard to like it.
It started literally with Outlook (implied Windows), and Microsoft.
Re: Artemis computer running two instances of MS outlook; they can't figure out why
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No they don’t. They’re our best and brightest, and they train for years at their one, important job, which is to use the system they’re given.
The mission of the astronauts on board is to test the damn Orion spacecraft in preparation for a human landing on the moon. > NASA flight controller and instructor Robert Frost explained the reasoning plainly in a post on Quora (via Forbes). “A Windows laptop is used for the same reasons a majority of people that use computers use Windows. It is a system that people are already familiar with. Why make them learn a ne…
Maybe he should have designed the rest of the controls to look like the cockpit of 2003 Toyota Camry. It is a system that people are already familiar with. And actually reliable.
Re: Artemis computer running two instances of MS outlook; they can't figure out why
#306For those nostalgic for different times https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xx7Lfh5SKUQ
Re: Artemis computer running two instances of MS outlook; they can't figure out why
#307The point is not running Windows or Outlook on a PC in space. The point is that the Software was not sealed, downloading upgrades while in space, sending telemetry back to Microsoft (or to whoever else). Those PC are like any other instrument onboard the spacecraft: it's status needs to be known and predictable by NASA. Not to talk about the amount of unknown and unpredictable extra traffic caused by those PCs onto t…
Hope that the `metered connection` option was toggled on.
Re: Artemis computer running two instances of MS outlook; they can't figure out why
#308The point is not running Windows or Outlook on a PC in space. The point is that the Software was not sealed, downloading upgrades while in space, sending telemetry back to Microsoft (or to whoever else). Those PC are like any other instrument onboard the spacecraft: it's status needs to be known and predictable by NASA. Not to talk about the amount of unknown and unpredictable extra traffic caused by those PCs onto t…
> it's status needs to be known and predictable by NASA Ah yes but do you think MS gives a flap about this? Same thing with the recent Fedramp certification. "Hey they're using it so we might as well certify"
Well, it is the other way around actually: NASA should not give a flap about MS tooling, and naturally avoid it completely. Whoever thought of having an Outlook or even 2 out of all the things on there should look for another job, because they clearly cannot be trusted with astronaut lives.
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#309with all that money, they could have selected or designed a power efficient arm soc and installed a custom linux that was power efficient and built for stability. It would have been a net positive for everyone in FOSS.
Instead they slapped some winshit together and told the astronauts to deal with it...
at least they aren't manually shitting into bags for this mission.
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#310Using Windows in space? What?