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Supreme Court Sides with Cox in Copyright Fight over Pirated Music

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Re: Supreme Court Sides with Cox in Copyright Fight over Pirated Music

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I wouldn't normally side with a cable company, but they're up against Sony Music, so I'll allow it. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_BMG_copy_protection_rootk...

I don't know maybe just be worried instead about being on the side of justice and what is right and not be so worried if that side has people you don't like on it.

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I don't know maybe just be worried instead about being on the side of justice and what is right and not be so worried if that side has people you don't like on it.

a lot of people determine what is right by who is on that side - the right side is the group that they identify with, and the wrong side is the group they dislike. And you get the hilarious (if not sad) situations often, where the exact same actions is wrong if committed by one group, and right if done by some other group.

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Re: Supreme Court Sides with Cox in Copyright Fight over Pirated Music

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It's always seemed fundamentally flawed to me that the exchange laws are designed to prevent people benefitting from insider information but then the entire purpose of the stock exchange is to make money by leveraging information asymmetry to make choices other rational actors wouldn't make because you have more knowledge or data than they do. It's a very "leverage your info to make money no wait not like that" schem…

That's why i would rather see insider trading made legal, but transparent. Instead of quarterly filings, if you are considered an insider (or is affiliated with one), you are required to have your trades be instantly reported and be public the nanosecond you make them. You are allowed to make use of the insider info, as long as you adhere to these transparency measures.

> ...you are required to have your trades be instantly reported and be public the nanosecond you make them.

That doesn't do anything at all to remedy the situation. Better would be to require trades by insiders (and the particulars of those trades) to be locked in and publicly announced at least seven calendar days in advance. You need not announce the reason for the trade, but you must announce the amount of whatever it is you're selling and/or buying and the date at which the transaction will happen.

Yes, I'm aware of the whole "scheduled stock sale" thing that folks at a certain level have to do when trading in the stock & etc of the company they work for. IMO, that should be mandatory for all employees and their families.

Re: Supreme Court Sides with Cox in Copyright Fight over Pirated Music

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It really has nothing to do with Sony as such though. This is a common finding; 9:0 is also a clear message. If service providers are held accountable then arms producers also have to be held accountable. Or politicians who drive up prices via racket scheme such as a certain guy using orange powder on his wrinkly face. Someone is stealing money from stock exchange - that is also becoming increasingly clear from the t…

It's always seemed fundamentally flawed to me that the exchange laws are designed to prevent people benefitting from insider information but then the entire purpose of the stock exchange is to make money by leveraging information asymmetry to make choices other rational actors wouldn't make because you have more knowledge or data than they do. It's a very "leverage your info to make money no wait not like that" schem…

The problem with insider trading is that incentivises people with power to do unlikely things with that power because private knowledge of the upcoming unlikely event is unusually profitable, especially if it is destructive. This ship may have sailed.

Re: Supreme Court Sides with Cox in Copyright Fight over Pirated Music

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post #276

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wouldn't normally side with a cable company, but they're up against Sony Music, so I'll allow it. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_BMG_copy_protection_rootk...

I don't know maybe just be worried instead about being on the side of justice and what is right and not be so worried if that side has people you don't like on it.

Presumably the parent’s objection to ISPs and copyright cartels is precisely that they are so frequently (and to such a large degree) unjust. FWIW, I don’t think the parent’s objection was subtle about that point, I’m frankly not sure how it was overlooked.

Re: Supreme Court Sides with Cox in Copyright Fight over Pirated Music

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I wouldn't normally side with a cable company, but they're up against Sony Music, so I'll allow it. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_BMG_copy_protection_rootk...

It really has nothing to do with Sony as such though. This is a common finding; 9:0 is also a clear message. If service providers are held accountable then arms producers also have to be held accountable. Or politicians who drive up prices via racket scheme such as a certain guy using orange powder on his wrinkly face. Someone is stealing money from stock exchange - that is also becoming increasingly clear from the t…

I don’t think the American right wing has any concerns about being perceived as inconsistent. They will reverse their positions overnight if it suits them, as they have illustrated every week for since the start of 2025 (most recently “no new wars / america first” to cheerleading the war in iran.

Re: Supreme Court Sides with Cox in Copyright Fight over Pirated Music

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I think for Music / Movies / Shows, sure, for Software? Probably not so simple.

Some would argue software shouldn't be copyrightable at all. And their arguments aren't entirely without merit, either. Hard to make them on a site dedicated to selling software and its byproducts, perhaps.

Copyright is what gives licenses like the GPL teeth against people who violate it though. I would argue abandonware should be fair game. If the company in question is gone or not maintaining the software, it should be 100% considered public domain.

Re: Supreme Court Sides with Cox in Copyright Fight over Pirated Music

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post #276

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I don't know maybe just be worried instead about being on the side of justice and what is right and not be so worried if that side has people you don't like on it.

a lot of people determine what is right by who is on that side - the right side is the group that they identify with, and the wrong side is the group they dislike. And you get the hilarious (if not sad) situations often, where the exact same actions is wrong if committed by one group, and right if done by some other group.

That's not hilarious or sad. It's valid to oppose your enemies and support your allies. It takes a certain kind of educated liberal bubble to think that is "hilarious"

Re: Supreme Court Sides with Cox in Copyright Fight over Pirated Music

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post #276

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know maybe just be worried instead about being on the side of justice and what is right and not be so worried if that side has people you don't like on it.

a lot of people determine what is right by who is on that side - the right side is the group that they identify with, and the wrong side is the group they dislike. And you get the hilarious (if not sad) situations often, where the exact same actions is wrong if committed by one group, and right if done by some other group.

Maybe I dislike a party because they're wrong, not that I think they're wrong becuase I dislike them? I usually don't have any reason to like or dislike a party until I see behaviour.

Re: Supreme Court Sides with Cox in Copyright Fight over Pirated Music

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Yes, but then the question becomes: which tactics does MPAA and the like will now resort to. Because we know they won't exactly say 'I guess that's it then'.

The MPAA has limited options given they aren’t any sort of government entity with any real enforcement power. All they can do is keep suing as they hope for a different outcome and/or try new forms of DRM.

the US Gov rolls over for anyone with enough money -- trump takes bribes

the MPAA has money, and they will go after the government to fix their problem

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