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How Big Diaper absorbs billions of extra dollars from American parents

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Re: How Big Diaper absorbs billions of extra dollars from American parents

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I didn't say that. I just said formula is not cheap. I never ran the numbers because I didn't care to. I am enjoying parenthood, thanks :)

You definitely said that by replying "very likely" to > Is formula more expensive than the portion of the mother’s caloric intake that’s used to produce milk You also "ran the numbers" in the same comment. Maybe you're not getting enough sleep from tending to your kid.

That wasn't me. Do you have a newborn as well? :)

Re: How Big Diaper absorbs billions of extra dollars from American parents

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What do you find confusing about the idea of a diaper service? It seems too unsanitary for you? The idea that it might cost slightly more than disposable diapers is intolerable to you? Do you have any reason to believe washing diapers actually is unsanitary?

The price tag and environmental impact of constant diaper delivery seems off the cuff like it would negate the original benefit of cloth diapers. Admittedly I have not done math on this one.

With the service we used, they picked up and dropped off diapers once per week using a big truck. They also drove around to do the same for many other people at the same time. You can't call this diaper delivery "constant". And if the emissions from this are significant, you could always use an electric van.

How are you feeling: do you still think this is something only for performative environmentalists or "trad wives"? Neither of these descriptions apply in even the remotest sense to my wife or I.

Re: How Big Diaper absorbs billions of extra dollars from American parents

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Oops, talked to my wife and realized I got a detail wrong: we did not keep the diapers from the service, we gave them back. And the diapers we got from the service were almost surely used by plenty of other people before. Someone else on here seemed confused about the logistics off the service. We lived in Brooklyn at the time. A big truck would drive around our neighborhood and pick up and drop off diapers from many…

Sorry, does the truck picks up dirty diapers? Or what’s the point of the pickup? How do you package them for pick up?

The truck would come by once a week to pick up all of our dirty diapers and drop off a new set of clean diapers. The service provided a bucket with a cloth bag inside of it that had enough capacity for one kid for a week. Packaging up = closing the lid of the bucket and leaving it outside the door of our apartment. They would drop off a new one of these buckets full of clean diapers each week (visiting many other people at the same time). Beyond all the environmental benefits, living in the city this was actually super convenient.

Re: How Big Diaper absorbs billions of extra dollars from American parents

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Diapers are overall a tiny expense compared to what you’ll spend over the course of their childhood. It only lasts a few years and then you’ll never have to think about diapers again (at least until the next kid). Just do whatever is easiest and keeps you sane. There are bigger things to worry about. My oldest was trained at 3 years, and my youngest at 18 months. The oldest only trained for a week, and the youngest t…

It’s easy for this style of journalism to get upset about “billions” but that’s just the reality of a country with over 300 million people. If each person in this country buys a product for $10 they’ve spent $3 billion. Now it’s a scary headline about how billions in wealth has been siphoned. I for one am not going to use cloth diapers. Sorry not sorry. I don’t give a shit (pun very much intended) about the benefits:…

What we should all be upset about is the cost of childcare (and even at these crazy costs the providers themselves are barely scraping by).

Re: How Big Diaper absorbs billions of extra dollars from American parents

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I would need a second washer — you feel comfortable washing your own clothes afterwards?!

Have you ever had a wife having her first baby? There are many decisions young parents make that from the remove of a keyboard in a happily single or child-free relationship seem irrational or (mon dieu!) _inefficient_, but there is a emotional depth to these choices that are _very_ meaningful to the people involved.

We're just talking about diapers, right?

Disposable vs. cloth? All else equal, don't the former make more sense (cleanlinesswise)?

Re: How Big Diaper absorbs billions of extra dollars from American parents

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You definitely said that by replying "very likely" to > Is formula more expensive than the portion of the mother’s caloric intake that’s used to produce milk You also "ran the numbers" in the same comment. Maybe you're not getting enough sleep from tending to your kid.

That wasn't me. Do you have a newborn as well? :)

Ha! You're right. That's not your quote.

Though, you did say formula "isn't cheap" in a comment questioning the the ROI. I'm lost because that would imply you had run the numbers to call it expensive.

I agree that every family's different. I'm overly touchy on the phrasing to a fault. You get it. My point is that people seem to lean into this or over worry about breastfeeding at all costs.

Re: How Big Diaper absorbs billions of extra dollars from American parents

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That wasn't me. Do you have a newborn as well? :)

Ha! You're right. That's not your quote. Though, you did say formula "isn't cheap" in a comment questioning the the ROI. I'm lost because that would imply you had run the numbers to call it expensive. I agree that every family's different. I'm overly touchy on the phrasing to a fault. You get it. My point is that people seem to lean into this or over worry about breastfeeding at all costs.

Agreed, and you're right that my statement does have that connotation.

We still keep formula on hand just in case (premixed because the powdered formula has a pretty short shelf life). We found that my daughter doesn't really like it, but that's not really relevant. But in any case, the premixed formula is 2-3x more expensive than the powdered formula, which is why it's a bit surprising to me that someone would say that formula is more cost-effective ROI. Anecdotally we haven't really noticed a increase in our monthly grocery bill, and my wife is back to her pre-pregnancy weight and has stayed there for a few weeks.

Re: How Big Diaper absorbs billions of extra dollars from American parents

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Have you ever had a wife having her first baby? There are many decisions young parents make that from the remove of a keyboard in a happily single or child-free relationship seem irrational or (mon dieu!) _inefficient_, but there is a emotional depth to these choices that are _very_ meaningful to the people involved.

We're just talking about diapers, right? Disposable vs. cloth? All else equal, don't the former make more sense (cleanlinesswise)?

I think we agree :). There were plenty of wrong ideas in this thread and I must have clicked on yours accidentally.

Re: How Big Diaper absorbs billions of extra dollars from American parents

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We're just talking about diapers, right? Disposable vs. cloth? All else equal, don't the former make more sense (cleanlinesswise)?

I think we agree :). There were plenty of wrong ideas in this thread and I must have clicked on yours accidentally.

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Re: How Big Diaper absorbs billions of extra dollars from American parents

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It talks about a study from 1944 in the US, specifically in Minnesota. How many of those parents were full-time stay-at-home parents, probably typically mothers, who were monitoring the child and helping with potty training? How many kids nowadays are in daycare? When there is a 3-to-1 adult-to-child ratio, doing something like this is much more challenging when there's just one adult and one infant.

Absolutely. 3:1 is only common ant absolute top tier daycares. More likely you’ll have 6:1 or 8:1. And even high quality daycares might not help children potty train which is absolutely essential if both parents are working but people want to potty train early. By age 3 kids are moving towards preschool and are more intelligent and have better self awareness and are more reward motivated. I think diaper conspiracy is…

I was only talking about infants, and I thought Massachusetts's legal requirement of 3:1 was pretty common everywhere in the US, since one adult taking care of 3 infants seems so difficult... but a quick search shows me it's not! 4:1 is pretty common as a minimum nationally, though.

> And even high quality daycares might not help children potty train

Definitely. I think that's pretty rare.

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