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Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is killed in Israeli strike, ending 36-year rule

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Re: Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is killed in Israeli strike, ending 36-year rule

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Oh, please. If you think the majority of all Iranians are in favor of US-Israeli bombings of their home country, you're seriously smoking some potent propaganda.

Did I say anything like that?

That's the implication of "At some point you have to decide: if my country ..." since "you" can't refer to anyone other than the Iranians. They have not "decided" to get bombed by Zionists.

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Aside from a few members of the IRGC, everybody who has been paying attention for the past 40 years is celebrating. Taking out both Maduro and Khomeini over the course of a few months without a single American or Israeli casualty is peak.

There were allegedly 7 US personnel injured during the Maduro raid. Decapitation airstrikes have been possible for decades. I suppose now we find out whether that was a good idea or not. Slightly surprised the Iran strike worked, if you remember the hunts for Saddam and Bin Laden.

Three very different operations.

Re: Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is killed in Israeli strike, ending 36-year rule

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Iraq right now is in roughly the same position as it was when Saddam Hussein was there but in the meantime a few million people died and the country went through a pretty traumatic period.

Plenty of people died under Saddam, too. Do you think the average Iraqi would choose to go back and live under Saddam?

Estimates put the number of people killed due to the American invasion between half a million and a million. Saddam's brutality paled in comparison to the carnage the US invasion caused.

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America and Israel are lawless countries. Can you imagine other countries assassinating a foreign head of state and not getting immediate blowback?

I prefer assassinations of leaders in wars over deaths of soldiers and especially civilians. Considering how Israel had to raze entire cities to beat 'Hamas' or the US dropping nukes in WW2 instead of bombing the Japanese Emperor. This is decent as far as wars go.

To the extent that they're actually effective, I agree.

Trouble is, higher-ups are easily replaceable, and the rank-and-file True Believers may be even more willing to follow orders in the name of a dead tyrant than a living one.

Or not. Sic semper tyrannis. Best wishes to the people of Iran.

Re: Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is killed in Israeli strike, ending 36-year rule

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Yes our president has only needlessly murdered two innocent US citizens so far. As he has told us countless times, he would like to be a dictator.

>Yes our president has only needlessly murdered two innocent US citizens so far Over a million people in the US died of COVID. It's impossible to know exactly how many of them would've lived if the pandemic started under a president with a saner response than recommending injecting disinfectant, but I'm willing to bet it's more than two.

Look at the number of covid deaths in countries other than the US and consider updating your news diet.

Re: Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is killed in Israeli strike, ending 36-year rule

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If the United States truly supported regime change there should be a clear next leader favored to succeed the Ayatollah, otherwise this feels more like a favor to oil companies, raising prices temporarily, and a sound bite for political gain, without a care of what happens to the country later. Simply toppling a government seems quite risky without further planning. Just expecting "good" people to fill the leadership…

Obviously has nothing to do with oil companies or oil, this is a war on behalf of Israel. Netanyahu visited Trump 6 times in the past year. Prominent Zionists and Israelis inside the US have been agitating for the US to do this for years, especially since Trump took office last year.

Wars are almost always about commerce, history has shown that. Ideology is used to back the motive publicly, but the reason for involvement is almost always trade or commerce. This case could be different, but it is not obvious to me that this case is any different. A simple example is WW1 where the US was forced to back the UK because of their large debt to US banks, despite them still being a colonist power at the time.

Re: Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is killed in Israeli strike, ending 36-year rule

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Trump hasn't provided any evidence of his death and is quoted as saying something very non-Trumpian here: https://www.nbcnews.com/world/iran/live-blog/israel-iran-liv... > Earlier, Trump addressed reports that Khamenei was killed in airstrikes today, saying, “We feel that that is a correct story.” This doesn't sound like Trump's typical bluster, and it's even weirder that Trump didn't immediately go on TV to brag. I'…

Maybe you should contact Iranian state tv because their promoting what you claim is an incorrect story: https://x.com/marionawfal/status/2027940530982625471?s=46

Re: Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is killed in Israeli strike, ending 36-year rule

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Ah yes, the poor innocent dictator minding his own business while killing thousands of protestors.

Falling for the same lies as "Saddam's WMDs" in 2026 is crazy. Keep that energy with Kim Jong Un, or Netanyahu. Oh wait, Israel is America's boss.

There's plenty of footage out there if you want to see the bodies.

Re: Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is killed in Israeli strike, ending 36-year rule

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Has there been a regime which has collapsed due to an external strike like this where it hasn't resulted in some decades long civil war nightmare? I can't think of any time when bombing the shit out of a country and killing their leader has actually worked. All I can think of is examples of blowback.

> I can't think of any time when bombing the shit out of a country and killing their leader has actually worked. Japan? Although their leader wasn't killed, but same logic. The more civilized a country is the easier it is to reform them into a good state, and Iran is a pretty civilized and structured nation, the dictatorship is the main issue. Most people in Iran want a democracy and are capable of running it, you ju…

The Americans had to occupy and place both Japan and West Germany under their military rule afterwards to make it stick, that's not a comparison

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The Iranian diaspora around the world is celebrating. Here's the scene in Berlin: https://youtu.be/NSbx_0mtk80?si=MJ_Bfvx8gVd1P1mm They've waited a very long time for this moment!

I have no doubt that they didn't like that the regime, which is why they left. But this assassination is no guarantee of change for the better. Far from it.

Another Ayatollah is being ushered in. This is no news. Khameni is old and without the missile, he would be dead soon. This sttike is just bonus to galvanize support for Ayatollah. So in a way Trump prolong the regime. And consequence from this: every other middle east countries now starting their nuke program. Good luck.
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