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Re: We Will Not Be Divided

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Post by AdieuToLogic »

siliconc0w wrote: post #285

We need key AI researchers at these companies to speak out - execs will not care otherwise. If Jeff Dean made this a red line, it might matter.

> We need key AI researchers at these companies to speak out ...

See this[0] article from Business Insider dated 2026-02-16 titled:

  The art of the squeal

  What we can learn from the flood of AI resignation letters
And containing:

  This past week brought several additions to the annals of 
  "Why I quit this incredibly valuable company working on 
  bleeding-edge tech" letters, including from researchers at 
  xAI and an op-ed in The New York Times from a departing 
  OpenAI researcher. Perhaps the most unusual was by Mrinank 
  Sharma, who was put in charge of Anthropic's Safeguards 
  Research Team a year ago, and who announced his departure 
  from what is often considered the more safety-minded of the 
  leading AI startups.
0 - https://www.businessinsider.com/resignation-letters-quit-ope...

Re: We Will Not Be Divided

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Post by _bohm »

medi8r wrote: post #67
davidw wrote: post #16

"We hope our leaders will..." I realize things are moving quickly, and the stakes are high here, but thinking about what happens if the hopes are not met might be a next step.

Needs a union. With strikes and all that jazz.

I don't know why you're being downvoted. This letter is completely toothless, and what you're suggesting is literally the only thing that these people could do that would make a difference.

Re: We Will Not Be Divided

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Post by dang »

mrcwinn wrote: post #122
dang wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Personal attacks aren't allowed here. Perhaps you don't owe AI tycoons whose names start with A better, but you owe this community better if you're participating in it. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

I see comments like this all the time on HN, including between community members. Why are you showing up now? Altman may be former YC and friends with Paul Graham, but he’s nevertheless a public figure and does plenty to deserve ridicule. Are we allowed, for example, to call Trump an insecure man with orange skin and tiny hands? Is that a violation of our allowed speech?

> I see comments like this all the time on HN, including between community members

That's bad, and I'd like to see links to those.

> Why are you showing up now?

If you mean why do I respond to A but not B, it's usually just that I saw A but didn't see B. We don't come close to seeing everything that gets posted to HN—there's far too much. If you see a post that ought to have been moderated but hasn't been, you can help by flagging it or emailing us at hn@ycombinator.com [1].

> Are we allowed, for example, to call Trump an insecure man with orange skin and tiny hands?

That's certainly a cliché, and it's hard to see how repetition of tropes fits with the intellectual curiosity that we're optimizing for (or trying to!) [2]. Curiosity withers under repetition and fries under indignation [3].

I think, though, that the issue with a political cliché is rather different than posting that someone "doesn't look human".

[1] https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu...

[2] https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor...

[3] https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu...

Re: We Will Not Be Divided

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Post by moralestapia »

Gigachad wrote: post #299
hakrgrl wrote: post #292

1.5 hours after this was posted, Sam Altman stated openai will work with the DoW. So much for this waste of a domain name. https://x.com/sama/status/2027578652477821175 "Tonight, we reached an agreement with the Department of War to deploy our models in their classified network. "

Something doesn’t make sense here. His tweet claims he has exactly the same restrictions that Anthropic had.

Makes 100% sense.

They said yes to the same thing.

Re: We Will Not Be Divided

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Post by ted_dunning »

pluc wrote: post #50
txrx0000 wrote: post #48

This is why you can't gatekeep AI capabilities. It will eventually be taken from you by force. It's time to open-source everything. Papers, code, weights, financial records. Do all of your research in the open. Run 100% transparent labs so that there's nothing to take from you. Level the playing field for good and bad actors alike, otherwise the bad actors will get their hands on it while everyone else is left behind…

When have US corporations (or simply "the US" really) ever done the right thing for humanity?

Donating the first polio vaccine to humanity.

Funding the majority of HIV prevention in Africa.

The list is long, but you knew that.

Re: We Will Not Be Divided

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Post by stinkbeetle »

hakrgrl wrote: post #292

1.5 hours after this was posted, Sam Altman stated openai will work with the DoW. So much for this waste of a domain name. https://x.com/sama/status/2027578652477821175 "Tonight, we reached an agreement with the Department of War to deploy our models in their classified network. "

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Re: We Will Not Be Divided

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Post by Vaslo »

lovich wrote: post #10

You’re kinda already conceding to some of your opponents points when you use legally invalid names like “Department of War” I appreciate the sentiment but don’t preconcede to your opposition by using their framing.

"Legally Invalid" lol - what?

Re: We Will Not Be Divided

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Post by gritspants »

Gigachad wrote: post #299
hakrgrl wrote: post #292

1.5 hours after this was posted, Sam Altman stated openai will work with the DoW. So much for this waste of a domain name. https://x.com/sama/status/2027578652477821175 "Tonight, we reached an agreement with the Department of War to deploy our models in their classified network. "

Something doesn’t make sense here. His tweet claims he has exactly the same restrictions that Anthropic had.

My theory is that they both went through normal procurement processes. At some point, one of Palantir's forward deployed sales agents slapped someone's arm at the golph course and said, yes we can automously kill with our AI agents. Anthropic, having little to do with the kind of 'AI' in a use case that made sense for, declined.

Re: We Will Not Be Divided

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Post by karmasimida »

moralestapia wrote: post #305
Gigachad wrote: post #299

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Something doesn’t make sense here. His tweet claims he has exactly the same restrictions that Anthropic had.

Makes 100% sense. They said yes to the same thing.

Dario is being ruled out due to ideological standing

Makes perfect sense

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