Who IS still using this verification software?
Good question. Quite a few, publicly. https://withpersona.com/customers
Ooof. So no more OpenAI, Twilio, Lime, Square, ...
Discord cuts ties with identity verification software, Persona
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#302Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'd think that original creators such as J.K. Rowling, Steven Spielberg, Bruce Springsteen & Taylor Swift (among others) would be other members of the !evil bucket.
J.K. Rowling is now infamous for using her vast wealth to lobby against transgender rights.
She's promoting women's rights actually.
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#303Earlier quoted context omitted.
https://www.pcmag.com/news/godot-game-engine-is-drowning-in-... https://arstechnica.com/security/2026/01/overrun-with-ai-slo... https://www.phoronix.com/news/LLVM-Human-In-The-Loop https://theshamblog.com/an-ai-agent-published-a-hit-piece-on... Just off the top of my head, I bet a lot of other repos are going through the same.
why use that specific word though?
Don't be surprised or shocked to encounter metaphors and hyperbole as you read. It's part of standard English communication.
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Isn't this kind of Nietzsche's slave morality? I don't, for example, think Phil Knight is an immoral person who intentionally did wrong things, though his company certainly has. You don't just become a billionaire and become corrupt, you have a mindset that justifies what you're doing and you conveniently excuse yourself or are unaware because you're dealing with things outside of your scope because a single person c…
> I suspect the vast majority of people who interacted with Epstein did it just to make connections and they made excuses, eg, Gates. I am not sure about that. Sex may have played a factor in this. I use the word "may", as I don't know for certain, but I don't buy into the "just to make connections". The superrich don't really need to "make connections" on an island where underage girls party.
> an island where underage girls party.
What an absolutely gross mischaracterization of what happens there.
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Can someone explain to me how Discord got so big in the first place, particularly for non-gaming uses? I saw this coming a mile away when folks started ditching slack for Discord - Slack being problematic because a) it was profit-seeking and would use its leverage over your personal data to seek rent and b) it was antithetical to the open web. Discord has the exact same two issues so was obviously not a solution. Why…
As far as I can tell, Discord doesn't delete history so you can join an older discord and scroll back. 99.99% of slacks that are free lose history after some arbitrary timeframe (used to be 10,000 messages, now I think its 90 days). Plus you can connect Discord to your Steam/Playstation/Xbox account, which gamers like.
Relatedly, the "gamer-oriented" business model of sell cosmetics and subscriptions to every user individually rather than the Slack big enterprise-oriented business model of a central admin paying an entire per-user cost out of pocket was a factor in many of my communities moving from Slack or skipping Slack. It's a lot easier for a small community admin to start for free and find enough "Boosts" from community membership for the nice-to-have server features that cost a bit extra than to foot the entire bill themselves in the hopes that enough users will eventually reimburse them. (It also allows for a hybrid where a community admin centrally pays for some amount of boosts, but doesn't have to pay for all of them.)
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#306Earlier quoted context omitted.
A frustrating aspect of the AI debates has been the number of people who believe people like Sam Altman who say that the immense wealth created by AGI would be distributed to the masses to improve their lives. The notion that the mega wealthy Elon/Sams/Bezos elites are going to willingly give up unprecedented wealth because millions of people have become unemployed and impoverished is so wildly out of step with how t…
This comment naively believes in zero sum creation of wealth. Wealth is not taken from our consumers and given to Sam Altman. Sam and his company are creating wealth - increasing the pie. Of course it benefits everyone while also benefiting them. Wealth need not be redistributed to improve lives. Just the mere invention of ChatGPT and letting people purchase it and use it is enough to improve people’s lives. Redistri…
> This comment naively believes in zero sum creation of wealth.
As long as we're in a capitalist society, wealth is certainly zero-sum.
Every technological advancement that made jobs easier just allows corporations to increase their margins or increase the workload. If I automate some of my work and now only need to work 20 hours/week, I don't get 20 more hours/week of free time, I'm just given more work to do.
If someone gets completely automated out of their job, they don't get to relax and enjoy free time. They have to find a new job to pay the bills. With more and more people getting automated out of a job, UBI will become a necessity. We will need to increase taxes on corporations to fund it.
Re: Discord cuts ties with identity verification software, Persona
#307Why was the title changed from its original that mentioned it's owned by Peter Thiel?
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#308So does this mean Discord is scrapping its new face verification requirement for users, or imply they’re no longer using this 3rd party service (Persona) to do it? The article wasn’t too clear on that.
Discord isn't scrapping its plans, just assuring people that one of the vendors they trialed in a sub-market they aren't moving forward with globally. They've been trying for a multi-vendor solution from the beginning and k-ID is the vendor they've been much more publicly happy with than Persona.
Today Discord also released a rather comprehensive (and good) recap of the plan so far, their apologies for some of their messaging mistakes, and what comes next: https://discord.com/blog/getting-global-age-assurance-right-...
(Also, from that post most notably mentioned about the global rollout is delayed in light of some of these vendor verification issues and also hoping to rollout a few more features to even further lesson the need for age verification by many users. One such feature being first-class opt-in "spoiler channels", which some servers had been using age restricted channels for that rather than opt-in roles and somewhat more complex role-based permissions.)
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#309Is there a problem with Peter Thiel or is their problem that somebody accidentally leaked the front end source code? The first I would understand, though I would find it silly. The second I don’t understand. Front end code is neither meant to be secret nor meant to be trusted. Who the hell cares if your users can see it?