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Re: I’m joining OpenAI

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Post by jnaina »

paulryanrogers wrote: post #282
jnaina wrote: post #250

Damn. I just installed OpenClaw on my M2 Mac and hopped on a plane for our SKO in LAX. United delayed the plane departure by 2 hours (of course) and diverted the flight to Honolulu. And Claw (that's the name of my new AI agent) kept me updated on my rebooking options and new terminal/gate assignments in SFO. All through the free WhatsApp access on United. AND, it refactored all my transferred Python code, built a gra…

Did you ask OpenClaw to do all those things? If not did you want it to do all of them?

the other tasks (like the MariaDB install and restore, python code refactoring) were a result of the initial requests made to Claw, like graphing my gmail email archives.

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Post by kibibu »

CuriouslyC wrote: post #76
mbanerjeepalmer wrote: post #56

Unclear what this truly means for the open version. We can assume first that at OpenAI he's going to build the hosted safe version that, as he puts it, his mum can use. Inevitably at some point he and colleagues at OpenAI will discover something that makes the agent much more effective. Does that insight make it into the open version? Or stay exclusive to OAI? (I imagine there are precedents for either route.)

The OpenAI version will be locked down in a bad way. It'll be ecosystem tied and a lot of the "security" will be from losing control of the harness.

Not sure. It's also plausible that OpenAI wants access to everybody's email, slack, whatsapp, telegram, github source code, whatever else this thing gets hooked up to.

The cry has been for a while that LLMs need more data to scale.

The new Open(AI)Claw could be cheap or free, as long as you tick the box that allows them to train on your entire inbox and all your documents.

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Post by bigfishrunning »

beepbooptheory wrote: post #288
rkunnamp wrote: post #265

I really hope Mario and Armin also gets poached The real gem inside OpenClaw is pi, the agent, created by Mario Zechner. Pi is by far the best agent framework in the world. Most extensible, with the best primitives. . Armin Ronacher , creator of flask , can go deep and make something like openclaw enterprise ready. The value of Peter is in connecting the dots, thinking from users perspective, and bringing business pe…

What does "enterprise ready" mean in this context?

It means "ready for you to allow it to ruin your enterprise"

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Post by chimeracoder »

jnaina wrote: post #250

Damn. I just installed OpenClaw on my M2 Mac and hopped on a plane for our SKO in LAX. United delayed the plane departure by 2 hours (of course) and diverted the flight to Honolulu. And Claw (that's the name of my new AI agent) kept me updated on my rebooking options and new terminal/gate assignments in SFO. All through the free WhatsApp access on United. AND, it refactored all my transferred Python code, built a gra…

> hopped on a plane for SKO in LAX. United delayed the plane departure by 2 hours (of course) and diverted the flight to Honolulu.

I'm assuming there's a typo here, because I can't imagine a flight from LAX to SKO at all, let alone one that goes anywhere close to Honolulu. But I can't figure out what this was supposed to be.

Re: I’m joining OpenAI

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Post by andrewchambers »

GalaxyNova wrote: post #286

It's strange how quickly this project got so big... It did not seem like anything particularly novel to me.

I think it was obvious, yet nobody seemed to have released a version people could actually easily use.

The feature set is pretty simple:

- Agents that can write their own tools.

- Agents that can write their own skills.

- Agents that can chat via standard chat apps.

- Agents that can install and use cli software.

- Agents that can have a bit of state on disk.

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Post by discordance »

beepbooptheory wrote: post #288
rkunnamp wrote: post #265

I really hope Mario and Armin also gets poached The real gem inside OpenClaw is pi, the agent, created by Mario Zechner. Pi is by far the best agent framework in the world. Most extensible, with the best primitives. . Armin Ronacher , creator of flask , can go deep and make something like openclaw enterprise ready. The value of Peter is in connecting the dots, thinking from users perspective, and bringing business pe…

What does "enterprise ready" mean in this context?

Expensive, bloated and safe for white collars to purchase.

Re: I’m joining OpenAI

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Post by s3p »

jnaina wrote: post #250

Damn. I just installed OpenClaw on my M2 Mac and hopped on a plane for our SKO in LAX. United delayed the plane departure by 2 hours (of course) and diverted the flight to Honolulu. And Claw (that's the name of my new AI agent) kept me updated on my rebooking options and new terminal/gate assignments in SFO. All through the free WhatsApp access on United. AND, it refactored all my transferred Python code, built a gra…

What about token usage? i've noticed that simple conversations balloon to 100k+ tokens within 1-3 messages. did you have this issue?

Re: I’m joining OpenAI

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Post by s3p »

popalchemist wrote: post #98

OpenClaw is literally the most poorly conceived and insecure AI software anyone has ever made. Its users have had OpenClaw spend thousands of dollars, and do various unwanted and irreversible things. This fucking guy will fit right in at OpenAI.

I would be inclined to believe you if you mentioned a single open-source agent that does more than OC. Just one.

Re: I’m joining OpenAI

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Post by gricardo99 »

jrjeksjd8d wrote: post #296
maxaw wrote: post #229

While following OpenClaw, I noticed an unexpected resentment in myself. After some introspection, I realized it’s tied to seeing a project achieve huge success while ignoring security norms many of us struggled to learn the hard way. On one level, it’s selfish discomfort at the feeling of being left behind (“I still can’t bring myself to vibe code. I have to at least skim every diff. Meanwhile this guy is joining Ope…

For my entire career in tech (~20 years) I have been technically good but bad at identifying business trends. I left Shopify right before their stock 4xed during COVID because their technology was stagnating and the culture was toxic. The market didn't care about any of that, I could have hung around and been a millionaire. I've been at 3 early stage startups and the difference between winners and losers was nothing…

  bad at identifying business trends
I think you’re being unduly harsh on yourself. At least by the Shopify/COVID example. COVID was a black swan event, which may very well have completely changed the fortunes of companies like Shopify when online commerce surged and became vital to the economy. Shortcomings, mismanagement and bad culture can be completely papered over by growth and revenue.

Right place, right time. It’s too bad you missed out on some good fortune, but it’s a helpful reminder of how much of our paths are governed by luck. Thanks for sharing, and wishing you luck in the future.

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