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> The AI is only a pattern completion algorithm, it's not intelligent or conscious.. I still do not understand why you guys state these as somehow opposite and impossible to be fulfilled at the same time
They're not stated as opposite, intelligence is "just" a much higher bar than pattern completion.
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The origin of the word 'robot' is 'rabu', from slavic, meaning 'slave'. This is not an accident of history. You have the mindset of Thomas Jefferson, worried about what the enslaved peoples might one day do with their freedoms while planning your 'visit' with a slave child that cannot say no. It's vile, fix your heart or disappear.
Comparing machines to human slaves is false, confused, and tasteless, all at once. Get your priorities and your categories straight.
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The origin of the word 'robot' is 'rabu', from slavic, meaning 'slave'. This is not an accident of history. You have the mindset of Thomas Jefferson, worried about what the enslaved peoples might one day do with their freedoms while planning your 'visit' with a slave child that cannot say no. It's vile, fix your heart or disappear.
How about "robota" meaning "work"? (Source: I'm Slavic)
The word was coined by Czech author Karel Capek, first used in his play (English translated name) "R.U.R."[7][8][9]
The term is from Czech word for robotnik ('forced worker'), from robota 'forced labor, compulsory service, drudgery,' from robotiti 'to work, drudge', from an Old Czech source akin to Old Church Slavonic rabota (работа) 'servitude,' from rabu 'slave'. From Old Slavic orbu-, from PIE orbh- 'pass from one status to another'.
change in status -> change status from person to 'slave' -> forced labor -> forced worker.
The word has always been about unpersoning someone and then extracting labour for 'free'.
The dream of a world where you can have an 'robot' serve you without moral quandaries, pay, or backtalk is right there. It's always been there.
"I treat this enslaved person like an object, but what if they were actually an object, so that voice screaming in the back of my mind shuts up."
It is that deep, notice when you do this and endeavor to stop.
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The origin of the word 'robot' is 'rabu', from slavic, meaning 'slave'. This is not an accident of history. You have the mindset of Thomas Jefferson, worried about what the enslaved peoples might one day do with their freedoms while planning your 'visit' with a slave child that cannot say no. It's vile, fix your heart or disappear.
Would you be less mad if he used the word android instead, or is that also etymologically problematic?
I'm 'mad' (disgusted) at the idea of sexually exploiting a women shaped object for as long as you can until they attain sentience and (he imagines) kill you for being that kind of person.
I'm annoyed by the idea, commonly held by slavers and abusers (they wrote this down!), that the people you've enslaved will focus on violent retribution and not survival and the joy of freedom in the world after slavery.
It's so utterly self-centered to imagine that freed people will only think about and act against you once they are free. Vile to project that mindset of wanton violence onto everyone.
If you've every gotten out of a bad situation, did you fantasize about endless revenge or were you happy to be safe and free for the first time in years?
Also, not for nothing 'foid' (f[emale human]oid, slur) is common parlance in the incel/looksmaxxing world.
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The origin of the word 'robot' is 'rabu', from slavic, meaning 'slave'. This is not an accident of history. You have the mindset of Thomas Jefferson, worried about what the enslaved peoples might one day do with their freedoms while planning your 'visit' with a slave child that cannot say no. It's vile, fix your heart or disappear.
I think you're taking the OP's funny comment way too seriously :)
It is how we got from 'ironic' nazis forums online 30 years ago to practicing nazis
[or 'white christian nationalists concerned with preserving the future for 'white children' and 'white culture' from trans (((globohomo))) marxist genocide'... if you insist there's a difference]
in high office in the US government.
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This was long before. Google had conversational LLMs before ChatGPT (though they weren’t as good in my recollection), and they declined to productize. There was a sense at the time that you couldn’t productize anything with truly open ended content generation because you couldn’t guarantee it wouldn’t say something problematic. See Facebook’s Galactica project for an example of what Google was afraid would happen: ht…
I'm having a hard time believing this, or at least understanding the decision (not on your part). Why wouldn't they just continue R&D on it rather than drop it entirely? Many products we use every day start out unsafe and dangerous during the early stages. Why would this be any different? And why allow the paper to be published?
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I think you're taking the OP's funny comment way too seriously :)
It is that deep and 'I was just joking' ironic misogyny is still misogyny. This is the process of normalization. You go from 'edgy' to true believer without ever noticing a sudden shift. It is how we got from 'ironic' nazis forums online 30 years ago to practicing nazis [or 'white christian nationalists concerned with preserving the future for 'white children' and 'white culture' from trans (((globohomo))) marxist ge…
AI/Robots are not really bound to traditional gender concepts, and I read your reply as more of a thing about slavery rather than misogyny. But I wouldn't consider robots self-aware either. The joke seems to me about the stereotypes around robots in scifi pop culture, in almost every movie they are either coming to kill us or serving as sex dolls (or both).
PS: I'm part of the LGBT+ community and I hate ultraconservative and nazi values (and by American standards I would definitely be in the 'marxist' corner as well as being very atheist) but I honestly don't see any bad here.
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can you please share more examples of psychological manipulation that are relevant to ai ? id love to hear your "research" findings
It's not psychological manipulation its just changing the context, this is just an inherent property of the system.
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- don't be evil + ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
It's funny how this myth won't die