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France's homegrown open source online office suite

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Re: France's homegrown open source online office suite

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Post by wolvoleo »

gib444 wrote: post #173
okanat wrote: post #26

Okay this is nowhere near an "Office suite". It is a cloud collaboration suite with a glorified markdown editor and with some extra utilities around. Almost nobody buys stuff like Google Docs and Microsoft Office for this reason. From my experience using open-source collaboration groupware like Nextcloud, their solutions written in dynamic programming languages like PHP and Python are always woefully slow. Only thing…

Europe is a little bit busy bleeding money for defence if you hadn't noticed. There's only so many 50bn EUR it can conjure up for something

It's fine, we don't need it all tomorrow. There's no credible threat right now, Russia's got their hands full with Ukraine.

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Post by jrcplus »

karel-3d wrote: post #241

It's very on-brand for France that the website is in French only, no English

+1. I got excited but https://lasuite.numerique.gouv.fr/ doesn't seem to be in English or any other European language. If you guys are hoping for Europe-wide adoption, start there.

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Post by _el1s7 »

okanat wrote: post #26

Okay this is nowhere near an "Office suite". It is a cloud collaboration suite with a glorified markdown editor and with some extra utilities around. Almost nobody buys stuff like Google Docs and Microsoft Office for this reason. From my experience using open-source collaboration groupware like Nextcloud, their solutions written in dynamic programming languages like PHP and Python are always woefully slow. Only thing…

I mean, let's face the reality, do you really think anything worthwhile in regards to tech projects will ever come out of government initiatives? I doubt it, especially in the EU.

The closest thing to an alternative office suite from an European company is Proton, and even that is barely a replacement.

Re: France's homegrown open source online office suite

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Post by _el1s7 »

superze wrote: post #53
okanat wrote: post #26

Okay this is nowhere near an "Office suite". It is a cloud collaboration suite with a glorified markdown editor and with some extra utilities around. Almost nobody buys stuff like Google Docs and Microsoft Office for this reason. From my experience using open-source collaboration groupware like Nextcloud, their solutions written in dynamic programming languages like PHP and Python are always woefully slow. Only thing…

To make matters worse, they are using Django. I can't take the EU serious any more.

At least it's not Laravel or .NET lol.

Re: France's homegrown open source online office suite

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Post by ffsm8 »

busterarm wrote: post #286
cromka wrote: post #76

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Yes

This is very obvious. What part of your document editor needs to be backed by a relational database? Why use an MVT system if you don't need the Model part of it?

https://github.com/suitenumerique/docs/blob/main/src/backend...

I see, in your broad and experienced mind, document editors don't have users, permissions, and the whole document management itself, comments on lines/threads, reactions on comments

Seriously, theyre all as cookie cutter perfect usecase for Django as you can get, but I guess you haven't actually thought about the domain and just wanted to take a dumb on other devs with intern-to-junior level insights

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Post by PlatoIsADisease »

fn-mote wrote: post #245
PlatoIsADisease wrote: post #209

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That explains why Android was not affected by Pegasus and Apple was.

You forgot the /s I suppose the assumption is that every HN reader follows headline hacking news, which is valid but still I did a double-take at the comment.

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Re: France's homegrown open source online office suite

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Post by moomoo11 »

yladiz wrote: post #297
moomoo11 wrote: post #279

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markdown is superior in every way. whatever doesn't map 1:1, imo just trash it. if you can't do your work using markdown, you should be fired. if i'm downvoted it is by people who deserve to be fired.

How do you do nested tables in markdown?

For the gaps they'll find, I'm sure they can use open source alternatives considering they're getting away from proprietary software.

If not, they can adapt.

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Post by okanat »

throwaway89201 wrote: post #285
okanat wrote: post #26

Okay this is nowhere near an "Office suite". It is a cloud collaboration suite with a glorified markdown editor and with some extra utilities around. Almost nobody buys stuff like Google Docs and Microsoft Office for this reason. From my experience using open-source collaboration groupware like Nextcloud, their solutions written in dynamic programming languages like PHP and Python are always woefully slow. Only thing…

> OpenCloud is the "open-source" fork but they are already in legal trouble with OwnCloud due to industrial espionage claims. Can you expand on this or source this? I'm quite interested in OpenCloud, and haven't heard anything about this. I searched for a few keywords (espionage, legal, lawsuit), which only lands your comment on top.

Sure. I didn't say exactly lawsuit because my source only says a threat from Kiteworks (parent company of OwnCloud):

https://github.com/orgs/opencloud-eu/discussions/262#discuss...

They seem to avoid openly discussing and comparing products to avoid further action. Apparently some of the former members of OwnCloud have switched to Heinlein (the maker of OpenCloud) and Kiteworks isn't happy about this.

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Post by blacksmith_tb »

lucb1e wrote: post #266
mabedan wrote: post #190

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Google Docs is a document editor (opening/saving Microsoft office compatible documents, with layout, etc), not a wiki/markdown editor. The La Suite Docs seems a product more similar to Atlassian Confluence.

> (opening/saving Microsoft office compatible documents, with layout, etc) Not being Microsoft Office®-compatible does not make something not an office suite. In that case, there is (by design) only one Office® suite in the world > not a wiki/markdown editor I was wondering if you meant WYSIWYG editing as opposed to markdown editing, but then you say > La Suite Docs seems a product more similar to Atlassian Confluenc…

Not the OP, but I would think most people would expect to see a word processor, a spreadsheet, some kind of presentation tool, and maybe a simple database. That's not just comparing to MS Office, that's LibreOffice as well? La Suite seems to have more and better collaboration tools than LO, but it is also less document-focused, just looking through their repos.

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Post by gorounditup »

seszett wrote: post #50
michelsedgh wrote: post #32

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But they still chose an American company, github, lol ironic

There's nothing ironic, as since the GP said there is no risk associated with GitHub. Git fundamentally prevents vendor lock-in and tampering, and the project is open, so the US have no leverage and pose no threat at all here.

You’re reasoning with a troll who doesn’t care about reason. Save your brainpower.
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