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Eight European countries face 10% tariff for opposing US control of Greenland

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Re: Eight European countries face 10% tariff for opposing US control of Greenland

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Post by Imustaskforhelp »

defrost wrote: post #264
fritzorino wrote: post #262

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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I'm sure you could express that viewpoint without what come across as deeply personal swipes. See: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

I don’t know what could possess someone to say Biden was just as bad as trump. It’s self evidently false

They mention that its self evidence but there is genuine evidence for this as well (which report do you want?) and its a fact and not deeply personal swipes.

Your comment on the other hand feels like not addressing the main points of what the GP said and much more like a smokescreen to this.

Re: Eight European countries face 10% tariff for opposing US control of Greenland

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Post by Imustaskforhelp »

subscribed wrote: post #229
picafrost wrote: post #11

Totally bizarre to watch the US transform from the endearingly crazy and rich friend to the one who holds you at gunpoint and robs you.

Putin's asset, propped to dismantle the US and western alliances.

I have repeatedly said this but it doesn't even matter if they are a putin asset or what but what they are doing is literally what Russia wants and one can realize it when they think about it for soemtime but America's literally at the weakest right now.

Re: Eight European countries face 10% tariff for opposing US control of Greenland

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Post by tim333 »

mindslight wrote: post #31
pixelesque wrote: post #4

To think Ted Cruz was partially on the money when he said in 2016 that "Donald might wake up one morning and nuke Denmark". What has happened to the US...

Even being the slimeballs they are, they all each knew how bad Trump was for their party and for our country. Yet one by one they kissed the ring and now we're expected to lick the boot.

Yet the American people seemed to back Trump. Whenever someone stood up against him like say Rubio the polls would go like 80% Trump 20% Rubio. That's a bit I find puzzling as a non American. Why not choose someone basically decent like Rubio, rather than the Donald?

Re: Eight European countries face 10% tariff for opposing US control of Greenland

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Post by defrost »

Imustaskforhelp wrote: post #301
defrost wrote: post #264

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sure you could express that viewpoint without what come across as deeply personal swipes. See: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

I don’t know what could possess someone to say Biden was just as bad as trump. It’s self evidently false They mention that its self evidence but there is genuine evidence for this as well (which report do you want?) and its a fact and not deeply personal swipes. Your comment on the other hand feels like not addressing the main points of what the GP said and much more like a smokescreen to this.

Have you read the guidelines for this site (see link).

If users, particularly green accounts, have opinions then they are encouraged to express them without snark directed toward the person they are replying to.

My comment addresses following the guidelines.

Re: Eight European countries face 10% tariff for opposing US control of Greenland

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Post by Imustaskforhelp »

rwyinuse wrote: post #60

It's about time for EU to put 50% tax on American digital services, and get rid of all Microsoft products in public sector.

The downstream effects for America of this can be so insane that this might be the reason that the bubble might pop in the first place when reality sets in.

Somebody should do a cost analysis of this and how it would impact S&P and the downstream effects of that as well and so on.

Re: Eight European countries face 10% tariff for opposing US control of Greenland

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Post by Imustaskforhelp »

jijijijij wrote: post #133
padjo wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The EU/Mercosur deal looks like it’s going to pass too. This move will only make it more likely. America first will become America alone pretty quickly.

I think this is the biggest indicator of permanent damage. The EU politicians aren't as impulsive and loud as the US, they won't do anything drastic when necessary changes take time to implement. They will buffer this hurt as much as they can, to cut their losses. However, the fact the trade deal now suddenly passed, after 20 years(?) of talk, points to a fundamental shift behind the scenes. Things are clearly in pro…

EU is also this close to making a deal with India and both India and EU are enthusiastic about this deal or EU is very optimistic to create a deal with India

A deal which was being on hold for atleast a decade.

It's just not the EU which is more willing to make deals but the rest of world (India got hit with 50% tarrifs) as well.

Re: Eight European countries face 10% tariff for opposing US control of Greenland

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Post by magicalhippo »

illiac786 wrote: post #259
zwirbl wrote: post #254

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It means something, but doesn't imply the existence of a NATO rmy

ok, but now we’re nit-picking about the meaning of “army”. There are “NATO troops” while there aren’t “EU Troops”. I would still like to understand why previous poster said the EU defense agreement was more robust, I am genuinely curious about what that agreement contains and how well it was respected in the past.

> I am genuinely curious about what that agreement contains and how well it was respected in the past.

Easy enough to find[1]. Here[2] is a nice article which digs a bit deeper into how it might play out.

[1]: https://eur-lex.europa.eu/EN/legal-content/glossary/mutual-d... (links to the treaty section if you want the text verbatim)

[2]: https://www.politico.eu/article/5-things-to-know-about-the-e...

Re: Eight European countries face 10% tariff for opposing US control of Greenland

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Post by Imustaskforhelp »

defrost wrote: post #304
Imustaskforhelp wrote: post #301

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t know what could possess someone to say Biden was just as bad as trump. It’s self evidently false They mention that its self evidence but there is genuine evidence for this as well (which report do you want?) and its a fact and not deeply personal swipes. Your comment on the other hand feels like not addressing the main points of what the GP said and much more like a smokescreen to this.

Have you read the guidelines for this site (see link). If users, particularly green accounts, have opinions then they are encouraged to express them without snark directed toward the person they are replying to. My comment addresses following the guidelines.

Well I guess its understable that you might think its snark partially perhaps because of the fact that they said self evidence.

I do understand what you are trying to say but their point still stands in my opinion and if you want me to provide facts from real studies indicating what they mention as self evidence. I am more than happy to do so to have a more nuanced but still civil discussion.

but also the fact is that most of such rules kind of (soft break) during times of chaos as such and I do know that you understand it as well.

You could've also done a better job trying to explain why you feel its snarky as I had assumed that you are trying to show the rules in case any uncomfortable facts comes up (which I hope you aren't doing as my civil response might go to waste in that case)

Re: Eight European countries face 10% tariff for opposing US control of Greenland

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Post by defrost »

Imustaskforhelp wrote: post #308
defrost wrote: post #304

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you read the guidelines for this site (see link). If users, particularly green accounts, have opinions then they are encouraged to express them without snark directed toward the person they are replying to. My comment addresses following the guidelines.

Well I guess its understable that you might think its snark partially perhaps because of the fact that they said self evidence. I do understand what you are trying to say but their point still stands in my opinion and if you want me to provide facts from real studies indicating what they mention as self evidence. I am more than happy to do so to have a more nuanced but still civil discussion. but also the fact is tha…

Could you explain to whom you believe these two snippets

> sounds like the conspiratorial ramblings of someone who desperately wants to seem in the know.

> But just ends up looking like a moron.

are tangentially directed towards ?

Do you believe that these are aligned with the HN guidelines?

Re: Eight European countries face 10% tariff for opposing US control of Greenland

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Post by tailspin2019 »

cudgy wrote: post #282
tailspin2019 wrote: post #182

Being from the UK - one of the privileged few to be tariffed - I couldn’t give a fuck about this. The thing that makes me viscerally angry in my soul though is reading about Greenlanders who are now stocking up on food and/or making plans to leave their country if the worst case happens. What the actual fuck. I can’t believe this is the reality we’re living in. So, tariff away. As someone else said, it’s a badge of h…

So throw caution to the wind because a country (not your country) with 100,000 people are stressed out about geopolitics and possibly being acquired by the richest nation in the world?

> “throw caution to the wind”

Would you say the US government is acting with “caution” regarding a country (not their country) of 57,000 “stressed-out” people who don’t want to be acquired?

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