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Re: Dell UltraSharp 52 Thunderbolt Hub Monitor

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>Which is the right choice No damn it, it's not! Everyone I know can immediately see a clear difference between 120 ppi and 200 ppi, but I've yet to encounter anyone who can reliably tell 120hz from 200hz. We have monitors that render lego-sized pixels at 500+ hz now, it's enough. Gamers have been gaslit to believe they have the reflexes of spider-man and are a lost cause, but their preferences have been listened to…

I've recently gone from 60hz to 240hz to 480hz. Refresh rate in games is not just about what it looks like. It completely changes game mechanics, like movement, recoil etc. It is such a big difference between 60hz and 240hz that you're not really playing the same game. There are things you can do at 240hz that are impossible at 60hz. At 480hz, there's also so much more time to react, so you really don't need fast ref…

I'm guessing you play FPS competitively and are in your 20s, and for you it might be true, I won't argue that.

The issue for me is that even if your experience was true for all gamers in the world, that would still be a tiny minority compared to all people in the world who use monitors to read text, day in and day out.

A low-res monitor cannot show a high-res image, but a high-res monitor can show a low-res picture, so both sides can get what they want here.

I run 8k/60 but my screen can also do 4k/120. If it could also do 1440 at 240hz or 1080 at 480hz wouldn't bother me, but that the industry spends all effort on making 1080/480 and basically NO effort on 8k does.

The industry should throw everything below say 200ppi on the scrap-heap of history where it belongs. It would harm nobody and benefit everybody.

Re: Dell UltraSharp 52 Thunderbolt Hub Monitor

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1. I don't think I'll ever buy Dell again. My current monitor is a Dell S3221QS 32" screen and it has vertical lines and starts flickering on both the Macbook M1 and the Mac Studio with the M4 Max chip after some time, which is a known issue[0][1]. It also defaults to YPbPr colors rather than RGB/SRGB, so the colors look off. I'm using HDMI to HDMI connectivity currently. Part of it is also my fault as I thought a mo…

I've gone the other direction - and after having struggled with other various monitors (the worst is easily the SAMSUNG 49" Odyssey Neo G9 G95NA - both cruddy capability (should have noted before buying it has no Power Delivery) as well as easily some of the blurriest text ever) - I've decided I will only ever buy Dell Monitors. Every one I've purchased (5 of them) in the last 15sh years has been a flawless performer…

I'm kinda the same. I have a Dell monitor and a Gigabyte monitor side by side and my mac constantly loses the connection to the gigabyte monitor. At least once per day I have to unplug my video link to the gigabyte monitor to get the mac to rediscover it, this never happens with the dell one.

Re: Dell UltraSharp 52 Thunderbolt Hub Monitor

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I have 3 27" 5k monitors in portrait and a 32" 4k horizontal above those. It is all mounted with vesa cheeseplates to manfrotto magic arms on t slot aluminum attached to a C stand with manfrotto super clamps. I also have two genelec studio monitors which sound amazing. All of that cost less than this one monitor.

I was going to comment about the price, but you kind of wrapped it up.

It's like the most popular form of innovation nowadays is just marginally nicer products with a massive premium on them - and I don't get how this is sustainable. Or maybe there's just way more people with massive amounts of disposable income than I realize...

There's no breakthrough of like "here's an amazing product, and by the way, it's for everyone".

This whole culture of scarcity, scalping, hoarding, FOMO, premium, it's so played out I'm literally done with it. This is paired with terrible customer support that takes customers for granted.

Very few companies seem to value their customers, and don't want to squeeze them. Tech, cars, consoles... You name it.

So this is my current stance: I'm out of the market for the foreseeable future, unless something breaks and I need to replace it. Even the "nice to have" stuff is down to almost zero.

Re: Dell UltraSharp 52 Thunderbolt Hub Monitor

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1. I don't think I'll ever buy Dell again. My current monitor is a Dell S3221QS 32" screen and it has vertical lines and starts flickering on both the Macbook M1 and the Mac Studio with the M4 Max chip after some time, which is a known issue[0][1]. It also defaults to YPbPr colors rather than RGB/SRGB, so the colors look off. I'm using HDMI to HDMI connectivity currently. Part of it is also my fault as I thought a mo…

Have you tried disabling GPU temporal dithering via BetterDisplay or StillColor? I had a similar problem with a different brand of monitor, and this has been the only reliable fix.

Re: Dell UltraSharp 52 Thunderbolt Hub Monitor

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What Genelecs are you using??

Not OP, but I have 2 8020D + a subwoofer. If I had to do it all over again I would have 2 8030C and no subwoofer.

Also have 2 8020D's but I skimped on the subwoofer. Probably a bad idea, since they deemphasize the lows so much, but surprisingly I can crank up them up on my mixer's EQ to make up for it without losing clarity.

Re: Dell UltraSharp 52 Thunderbolt Hub Monitor

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It does read exactly like Bateman in my head, but didn't pin it down until you helped. Still, that Dell monitor is pretty crazy itself.

Let's see Paul Allen's monitor

https://www.geekwire.com/2024/auction-of-paul-allen-items-in...

Re: Dell UltraSharp 52 Thunderbolt Hub Monitor

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1. I don't think I'll ever buy Dell again. My current monitor is a Dell S3221QS 32" screen and it has vertical lines and starts flickering on both the Macbook M1 and the Mac Studio with the M4 Max chip after some time, which is a known issue[0][1]. It also defaults to YPbPr colors rather than RGB/SRGB, so the colors look off. I'm using HDMI to HDMI connectivity currently. Part of it is also my fault as I thought a mo…

Have you tried disabling GPU temporal dithering via BetterDisplay or StillColor? I had a similar problem with a different brand of monitor, and this has been the only reliable fix.

This helped with my S2722QC.

Also: https://www.dell.com/support/kbdoc/en-us/000331897/apple-m-p...

Re: Dell UltraSharp 52 Thunderbolt Hub Monitor

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Do product companies visit their own websites? You have to click on three (!) overlays/popups if you visit the website - cookie notice, another popup telling me that I am not from the US and can visit their european website, and an AI alert overlay telling me about their new AI features. Only after clicking away all three I can actually see the product content. Madness.

Re: Dell UltraSharp 52 Thunderbolt Hub Monitor

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post #157

I have 3 27" 5k monitors in portrait and a 32" 4k horizontal above those. It is all mounted with vesa cheeseplates to manfrotto magic arms on t slot aluminum attached to a C stand with manfrotto super clamps. I also have two genelec studio monitors which sound amazing. All of that cost less than this one monitor.

All the brand naming makes this read like something from American Psycho.

Gear fetishism is a serious disease, and the symptoms are obvious
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