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SparkFun Officially Dropping AdaFruit due to CoC Violation

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Re: SparkFun Officially Dropping AdaFruit due to CoC Violation

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Incredible how Adafruit-sided this discussion is, having seen ptorrone serially creating alt accounts fediverse to harrass people who thought that his behavior was bad [1], going as far as to harrass people on their Etsy stores [2]. I do not expect anything he says to be truthful at all, after having seen how much abuse he spews out.

[1]: https://cyberplace.social/@GossiTheDog/115605021402124429 [2]: https://chaos.social/@gsuberland/115599931317645220

Re: SparkFun Officially Dropping AdaFruit due to CoC Violation

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right, but you're not really competing on processor speed. You're competing on maturity of peripherals where the RP doesn't really match up PIO or not. Edit: I see you're comparing it to the 3.2 but I suspect most folks are going to be comparing your offering to the 4.x.

Yeah - I don't really consider this comparable for my uses which rely heavily on the DSP and processing power of the Teensy itself either. Drama and whatnot aside I'm not really sure why anyone would buy the (considerably more expensive) Teensy over something RP based if RP was suitable for their needs already. Interestingly despite being a Teensy fan I have found myself reaching more towards the RP when I can becaus…

I've been interested to hear more about use cases for these "hybrid" MCUs, can you share a bit about why you chose that over something like a Cortex-A running linux, or an SoC with -A and -M cores?

Re: SparkFun Officially Dropping AdaFruit due to CoC Violation

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post #185

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Communities were doing just fine without a CoC up until they became a trend. People got banned too but the moderators couldn't hide behind a CoC to justify questionable decisions.

> Communities were doing just fine without a CoC I mean kinda, but also not. CoCs just codify what the moderators think. Even Hacker news has a CoC: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html its just called a guide. A community has to have a set of rules which most people agree on. One of the most common attacks in a moderated forum is "Oh but X did Y" and "thats not fair X can do it" A CoC can be a simple way…

I perceive "guidelines" or "rules" having a very different connotation compared to a "code of conduct."

See for, example, the SQLite team adopting the Rule of St. Benedict as their "Code of Conduct," getting criticized for it, and changing it to a "Code of Ethics" in accordance with the Rule about seeking accommodation with your adversaries.

Re: SparkFun Officially Dropping AdaFruit due to CoC Violation

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post #215

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It just dawned on me that CoC docs are basically HR for open source. Point to a violation and voila, that person is gone. “Sorry, nothing personal, CoC violation, there’s nothing I can do”.

Exactly. Without a CoC the persons making hard decisions have to stand behind them. With a CoC they can hide behind the CoC and wash their hands in innocence. This lowers the barrier for making questionable decisions and overall decreases honesty. We've seen this with the suspension of Python core maintainer Tim Peters.

I had never heard of the Tim Peters incident, but I just googled it. (It's not on his Wikipedia page.)

I found this:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/1ep4dbt/the_shamefu...

Which points to this:

https://chrismcdonough.substack.com/p/the-shameful-defenestr...

This characterizes it as completely unfair, and the /r/python community seems to agree.

Is there a rebuttal from the other side?

Re: SparkFun Officially Dropping AdaFruit due to CoC Violation

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Incredible how Adafruit-sided this discussion is, having seen ptorrone serially creating alt accounts fediverse to harrass people who thought that his behavior was bad [1], going as far as to harrass people on their Etsy stores [2]. I do not expect anything he says to be truthful at all, after having seen how much abuse he spews out. [1]: https://cyberplace.social/@GossiTheDog/115605021402124429 [2]: https://chaos.so…

i asked if the person was going to "dox" me if i purchased a sticker that was in my cart already. there are multiple people making accounts using my handle, so i'm now on a server where there is some due process before fake reports or others pretending to be me.

Re: SparkFun Officially Dropping AdaFruit due to CoC Violation

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post #76

I miss the days when we would get Ruby Drama like this every week.

Those guys migrated to Rust and are too busy pleasing the borrow checker now

Until they there's a post about Zig/C/C++ and they come out of the woods asking why it wasn't written in Rust.

Re: SparkFun Officially Dropping AdaFruit due to CoC Violation

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post #51

hi, phil here — post on adafruit here: https://blog.adafruit.com/2026/01/12/discontinuing-the-teens... i’ll stop back and answer anything (sparkfun will not?). sparkfun is the exclusive maker and distributor of the closed-source teensy and informed us we will not be able to purchase the teensy. this happened after i sent an email reporting the founder, nate, for multiple harassing actions directed at limor, including…

If it means anything, the first thought I had reading this post was "I wonder how SparkFun is exaggerating or misrepresenting this situation, because I can't believe Adafruit of all organizations is in the wrong here."

Same. I was afraid that there was some bad egg that managed to get into Adafruit, or maybe someone was having a real bad day. You never know what kind of person someone is off camera, but Adafruit as a company has always managed to give off the most wholesome vibes.

I'll be interested to see how this unfolds. I have little skin in the game being mostly upstream of the supply chain, but I've had reason to purchase from both companies, and hope this doesn't blow up into a huge thing.

Re: SparkFun Officially Dropping AdaFruit due to CoC Violation

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I read a bunch of the relevant social media posts and emails and concluded that all parties are acting deeply childishly.

Nate shouldn’t have made a website with a domain name with Phil’s name and photoshopped meme, and brought it back up on social media years later.

Phil shouldn’t have been so aggressive in emailing Nate’s and his wife’s employers.

Sparkfun shouldn’t have overreacted by cutting off ties with Adafruit.

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