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AWS raises GPU prices 15% on a Saturday, hopes you weren't paying attention

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Re: AWS raises GPU prices 15% on a Saturday, hopes you weren't paying attention

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I’ve been working on computeprices.com as a side project for the last year to do just that.

This is cool! Would it be possible to add "Best Value" / "best average performance per dollar" type thing?

Good idea! I'll noodle on how to define that.

Re: AWS raises GPU prices 15% on a Saturday, hopes you weren't paying attention

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- GPU prices rising - RAM prices rising - hard drive prices rising Are we looking at a future where home computers are replaced by thin clients and all the power lies in subscription services? ‘You don't need storage space, use our cloud subscription’ ‘You don’t need processing power, stream your games through our subscription service.’ Game publishers have already publicly floated the idea of not selling their games…

All the more reason to self host some part of your life at least. If there’s a market, someone will figure out how to service it, but if everyone gives up totally then all we’ll have is massive, cold, immovable corporations holding all our data.

Re: AWS raises GPU prices 15% on a Saturday, hopes you weren't paying attention

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Not a finance guy, so fully prepared to be wrong here. But my interpretation is that an increase in price corresponds to a shorter lifespan. i.e. less time to make money so we need to charge more to get the same return over less time It could also be a supply/demand issue, generally price increases are caused by either 1. demand increasing, or 2. supply decreasing. In this case we can interpret a shorter lifespan as…

Oh my reasoning was coming at this from a different angle: H200s were released in November of 2023, so they're over 2 years old at this point while still being valuable

I would not be surprised if the majority of H200s were manufactured in the past 12 or even 6 months.

Re: AWS raises GPU prices 15% on a Saturday, hopes you weren't paying attention

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- GPU prices rising - RAM prices rising - hard drive prices rising Are we looking at a future where home computers are replaced by thin clients and all the power lies in subscription services? ‘You don't need storage space, use our cloud subscription’ ‘You don’t need processing power, stream your games through our subscription service.’ Game publishers have already publicly floated the idea of not selling their games…

Computers have never been more powerful. There is less and less of a reason to do annual upgrades. I don’t follow this logic at all. The average consumer does not even need a home computer anymore. Sure if you are upgrading you gaming PC or something similar than your going to feel a bit more of a squeeze but even then it’s not a wild increase in price compared to the hours spent using.

GPUs are still overpriced and memory-limited. There's room for 10-100x improvement that would be noticeable.

Re: AWS raises GPU prices 15% on a Saturday, hopes you weren't paying attention

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The “hopes you weren't paying attention” part of the headline seems needlessly inflammatory. All I see is demand rising into a supply-limited market (GPUs and RAM). That doesn’t seem nefarious, just high-school economics.

GPU and RAM supply doesn't change over the course of one weekend usually though. So there would have been no reason not to wait until Monday or do it before Saturday.

Re: AWS raises GPU prices 15% on a Saturday, hopes you weren't paying attention

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> The alternative to a subscription is usually capital-intensive - if you want to cancel Netflix you need to have a DVD collection. I did Apple Music and Amazon Music. The experience of losing “my” streaming library twice totally turned me off these kinds of services. Instead I do Pandora, and just buy music when I (rarely) find something I totally love and want to listen to on repeat. The inability to build a librar…

I do wish these services would have an easier method to import/export playlists and collections. But that would make it easier to leave, so its not going to happen.

At least with Apple Music you can cmd-a cmd-c cmd-v playlists into a CSV file or something.

Re: AWS raises GPU prices 15% on a Saturday, hopes you weren't paying attention

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- GPU prices rising - RAM prices rising - hard drive prices rising Are we looking at a future where home computers are replaced by thin clients and all the power lies in subscription services? ‘You don't need storage space, use our cloud subscription’ ‘You don’t need processing power, stream your games through our subscription service.’ Game publishers have already publicly floated the idea of not selling their games…

All the more reason to self host some part of your life at least. If there’s a market, someone will figure out how to service it, but if everyone gives up totally then all we’ll have is massive, cold, immovable corporations holding all our data.

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Re: AWS raises GPU prices 15% on a Saturday, hopes you weren't paying attention

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You have that option, it's called buying a house and getting a mortgage. You just rent from the bank for 30 years first. But you're not thinking x=30 with any responsibility other than writing a check, I bet. If I had to guess, I'd say you want x There's a reason why a mortgage with very little down payment is a lot more than comparable rent.

> It's fine to want that but let's not pretend "rent should be illegal" is a serious or reasonable policy proposal. So its fine for you that there are people owning 20+ properties speculating on profit for basic human needs? Its literally Nestlé "this is MY water" behavior.

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Re: AWS raises GPU prices 15% on a Saturday, hopes you weren't paying attention

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> The alternative to a subscription is usually capital-intensive - if you want to cancel Netflix you need to have a DVD collection. I did Apple Music and Amazon Music. The experience of losing “my” streaming library twice totally turned me off these kinds of services. Instead I do Pandora, and just buy music when I (rarely) find something I totally love and want to listen to on repeat. The inability to build a librar…

I do wish these services would have an easier method to import/export playlists and collections. But that would make it easier to leave, so its not going to happen.

I don’t know about Amazon but having migrated to/from both Spotify and Apple Music they are both ludicrously easy to export playlists/libraries from.

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I am not sure I understand. I agree: If AI were to disappear tomorrow, people would adjust (as they did when AI, or the iPhone or the internet appeared). That's what people do. But now there is user demand. Who or what would take away AI? What is the scenario?

Lots of companies right now have slapped AI features on their products without extra cost. Some are offering it for free (e.g. search engines). If LLM costs significantly increase, I would expect free AI features to disappear or become extra paid features (already started to happen in some SASS), while any free LLMs become simpler and cheaper.

This is making the scenario more complicated, because now we also have to consider products without product market fit, which is an entirely different issue. I don't know how to think about that.
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