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Re: Exe.dev

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Post by beAbU »

ricardobeat wrote: post #165
codingdave wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not a mobile issue. I am on desktop and had no idea what this service was because nothing on the initial UI explained what we were looking at. I went and double-checked when people here were talking about pricing and VMs. From the home page, I figured it was some text-based game or experiment and closed the page. It looks like some people who work there are watching this thread, so to them I say: You have got to expl…

It's odd to see how people are not accustomed to plain websites anymore. You click the 'About' link in the footer, and get a direct explanation of what it is, pricing and the entire documentation.

What is the purpose of the landing page of this site, if it conveys nothing? Sure, 'about' explains what it is, but then from there I need to go back to a page that's called 'all docs' to see the link to pricing.

Don't defend this. It's not plain. It's obtuse.

A properly designed plain site will have the following text front and centre on it's hero:

"virtual machines in the cloud with persistent disks and sudo, starting from $20/month."

Re: Exe.dev

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Post by jeremyjh »

notepad0x90 wrote: post #279
jeremyjh wrote: post #200

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You can’t host compute for anonymous users. I mean you can, but you won’t for long due to the abuse that will inevitably come with it. That you are responsible for. And anyway, it’s not always going to be free.

What are the abuse risks of compute versus vpn? Mullvad is doing it already. Their payment information doesn't need to be "anonymous". I have hosted websites while paying for the domain, vps hosting and all that it entails entirely with BTC, not once using payment information associated with me. But you know what was required of me even then? A damn email address!!

Compute opens vast surface area for abuse that VPN does not. You could use it control bot networks, host CSAM, host phishing sites and more.

Re: Exe.dev

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Post by 0pteron »

mrs6969 wrote: post #131

just to be clear, this is total resources for all the vm right ? like you give 2 cpu. 8gb memory for 20vms. Which I believe you wont be able to use 20 of them at the same time if they share 2 cpu only

Why do you think that? the VMs are more like containers so yeah you can run 20 at once but they will all share 2 cpu

Re: Exe.dev

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Post by jeff-hykin »

I guess I'm the only one that appreciates the extremely minimal site design. Main page was interesting, clicked about, understood the idea, clicked login, enjoyed having no password, added a passkey, spun-up a server.

Did have an issue with auto-generated server name being taken (and similar names being taken). So there could be even less friction on that aspect. But I like the idea of not talking/listing features or showing diagrams, just give me access.

I mean I do need to know pricing, usage limits, uptime etc. But just let me easily find that after giving access.

Re: Exe.dev

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Post by kerneis »

twotwotwo wrote: post #247
twotwotwo wrote: post #40

So I tried this the other day after Filippo Valsorda, another Go person, posted about it. My reaction was 'whoa, this really makes it easier to start a quick project', and it took a minute to figure out why I felt that way when, I mean, I have a laptop and could spin up cloud stuff--arguably I already had what I needed. I think it's the combination of 1) really quick to get going, 2) isolated and disposable environme…

FWIW, here are (mostly) their agent's tips for other agents from exploring a mostly-new system including tidbits like how to get recent Node: https://s3.us-east-1.amazonaws.com/1FV6XMQKP2T0D9M8FF82-cach... It's very much a snapshot of what happens to come on a new VM today, and I put a little disclaimer in it to try to help tools get unstuck if anything there proves to be outdated or a flat-out (accidental) lie.

Thank you! This is a very useful one-pager, answers many questions I had I couldn't find in their documentation (being on mobile I couldn't test with SSH).

Re: Exe.dev

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Post by docmars »

notepad0x90 wrote: post #294
docmars wrote: post #292

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I think that leaves: how would you prefer to recover your account if you lost access?

same way I would with my email provider. But I'd expect a recovery code of some sort that i could save. How would you normally recover an account? Email? So, if my email is compromised, everything gets compromised? That's not sane at all. You should normally have MFA, and if you can recover your MFA/2FA with email, it's just an over-engineered inconvenience. The way it's done right, the MFA recovery code servers as a…

Thanks for explaining! I was mainly curious what viable alternatives there would be for the average user, and I think your suggestions are sound. Even technical folks wants things to feel as frictionless as possible.

The nice thing about recovery codes is being able to store them securely in a password manager alongside any other entries for the service.

The downside is they're easy to leak (or lose), so the added factors in requiring access to email (also with its own 2FA) are lost in a system like this, if whatever you're managing is mission critical. I wouldn't want to make that kind of bet, personally.

Re: Exe.dev

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Post by notepad0x90 »

jeremyjh wrote: post #302
notepad0x90 wrote: post #279

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What are the abuse risks of compute versus vpn? Mullvad is doing it already. Their payment information doesn't need to be "anonymous". I have hosted websites while paying for the domain, vps hosting and all that it entails entirely with BTC, not once using payment information associated with me. But you know what was required of me even then? A damn email address!!

Compute opens vast surface area for abuse that VPN does not. You could use it control bot networks, host CSAM, host phishing sites and more.

Yet, anonymous compute providers exist. Either way, if all you want is to identify who your users are, that's fine. Email hardly helps. It's not hard to setup a temporary mailbox. Anyone can sign up to protonmail without identifying themselves too much. All you're doing is making it inconvenient for the opportunistic an lazy potential criminals (and legit users alike). Simply not accepting crypto payment goes a long way. Furthermore, even if your users are 100% innocent & legitimate, they could and do get compromised (happens a LOT).

I think it's just something people do because "everyone else" is doing it. Lots of familiarity around email. "it's just not done" as they say.

Re: Exe.dev

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Post by notepad0x90 »

docmars wrote: post #306
notepad0x90 wrote: post #294

Earlier quoted context omitted.

same way I would with my email provider. But I'd expect a recovery code of some sort that i could save. How would you normally recover an account? Email? So, if my email is compromised, everything gets compromised? That's not sane at all. You should normally have MFA, and if you can recover your MFA/2FA with email, it's just an over-engineered inconvenience. The way it's done right, the MFA recovery code servers as a…

Thanks for explaining! I was mainly curious what viable alternatives there would be for the average user, and I think your suggestions are sound. Even technical folks wants things to feel as frictionless as possible. The nice thing about recovery codes is being able to store them securely in a password manager alongside any other entries for the service. The downside is they're easy to leak (or lose), so the added fa…

> , personally.

I get it, that's why I advocate letting users choose. Especially with a technical audience, treating them like they can't be trusted to make mission critical choices is not good.

Re: Exe.dev

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Post by AuthAuth »

ricardobeat wrote: post #165
codingdave wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not a mobile issue. I am on desktop and had no idea what this service was because nothing on the initial UI explained what we were looking at. I went and double-checked when people here were talking about pricing and VMs. From the home page, I figured it was some text-based game or experiment and closed the page. It looks like some people who work there are watching this thread, so to them I say: You have got to expl…

It's odd to see how people are not accustomed to plain websites anymore. You click the 'About' link in the footer, and get a direct explanation of what it is, pricing and the entire documentation.

Given that this is an AD for the ten millionth VPS service, it should be upfront about the value proposition. Most people think its a game or something interesting and when they find out what it is they're disappointed. You dont want people associating that with your brand.

Re: Exe.dev

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Post by beeboop0 »

here's the issue

1. the home page should have a link to all docs

2. about page docs link should be a link to all docs, not a link to itself

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