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Meta is using the Linux scheduler designed for Valve's Steam Deck on its servers

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Re: Meta is using the Linux scheduler designed for Valve's Steam Deck on its servers

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tayo42 wrote: post #176
bongodongobob wrote: post #172

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That's not how it works though. Budgets are annual. A 1% savings of cpu cycles doesn't show up anywhere, it's a rounding error. They don't have a guy that pulls the servers and sells them ahead of the projection. You bought them for 5 years and they're staying. 5 years from now, that 1% got eaten up by other shit.

You don't buy servers once every 5 years. I've done purchasing every quarter and forecasted a year out. You reduce your services budget for hardware by the amount saved for that year.

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Re: Meta is using the Linux scheduler designed for Valve's Steam Deck on its servers

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Post by bongodongobob »

tayo42 wrote: post #176
bongodongobob wrote: post #172

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's not how it works though. Budgets are annual. A 1% savings of cpu cycles doesn't show up anywhere, it's a rounding error. They don't have a guy that pulls the servers and sells them ahead of the projection. You bought them for 5 years and they're staying. 5 years from now, that 1% got eaten up by other shit.

You don't buy servers once every 5 years. I've done purchasing every quarter and forecasted a year out. You reduce your services budget for hardware by the amount saved for that year.

5 years is the lifecycle. You're not going to get rid of a 4 year old server because you're using less cycles that you thought you would. You already bought it. You find something else for it to do or you have a little extra redundancy. If I increase the mpg of my semi fleet, that doesn't mean I can sell some of my semis off just because the cost per trip goes down.

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Post by Sparkyte »

0x1ch wrote: post #251
aucisson_masque wrote: post #224

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Isn't bazzite a gaming focused distribution ? It seems weird to install it on a PC that does 'my everything'. I wouldn't make excel spreadsheet on the steam deck for instance.

Bazzite is advertised for gamers, however from my understanding it's just Fedora Atomic wrapped up to work well on steamdeck adjacent hardware and gaming is a top priority. You'd still be receiving the same level of quality you would expect from Fedora/RHEL (I would think).

Precisely, I like it's commitment to the Fedora Atomic. Fedora is in my opinion the best user experience Linux out there, not just because Linus Torvalds said it was his favorite. Probably not the best server or best to base a console OS on, but as a daily driver consistency is more important. Keeping things in flatpaks makes it easy to manage what is installed too.

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Post by Sparkyte »

aucisson_masque wrote: post #224
Sparkyte wrote: post #171

I've been using Bazzite Desktop for 4 months now and it has been my everything. Windows is just abandonware now even with every update they push. It is clunky and hard to manage.

Isn't bazzite a gaming focused distribution ? It seems weird to install it on a PC that does 'my everything'. I wouldn't make excel spreadsheet on the steam deck for instance.

Gaming or not, stability is important. An OS that focuses on gaming will typically focus on stability, neither bleeding edge or lag behind in support. Has to update enough to work with certain games and behind enough to not have weird support isues.

So Bazzite in my opinion is probably one of the best user experience flavors of Fedora around.

Yes you can do more than gaming on Bazzite.

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Post by Kholin »

balls187 wrote: post #279

How well does Linux handle game streaming? I’m just now getting into it, and now that Windows10 is dead, I want to move my desktop PC over to linux, and end my relationship with Microsoft, formally.

It works will. I've tried used Sunshine as stream server and Moonlight as client to play games on my Steam Deck, my PC installed openSUSE Tumbleweed with KDE Plasma. There may be some key binding issues, but they can be solved with a little setup.

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Post by defrost »

pwthornton wrote: post #289
rapind wrote: post #286

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It's not just Valve taking the initiative. It's mostly because Windows has become increasingly hostile and just plain horrible over the years. They'll be writing textbooks on how badly Microsoft screwed up their operating system.

I'm a Mac user, but I recently played around with a beefy laptop at work to see how games ran on it, and I was shocked at how bad and user-hostile Windows 11 is. I had previously used Windows 98, 2000, XP, Vista, and 7, but 11 is just so janky. It's feestoned with Co-pilot/AI jank, and seems to be filled with ads and spyware. If I didn't know better, I'd assume Windows was a free, ad-supported product. If I ever pick…

In defence of Windows . . .

(I've been a cross platform numerical developer in GIS and geophysics for decades)

serious windows power users, current and former windows developers and engineers, swear by Chris Titus Tech's Windows Utility.

It's an open powershell suite collaboration by hundreds maintained by an opinionated coordinater that allows easy installation of common tools, easy setting of update behaviours, easy tweaking of telemetry and AI addons, and easy creation of custom ISO installs and images for VM application (dedicated stripped down windows OS for games or a Qubes shard)

https://github.com/ChrisTitusTech/winutil

It's got a lot of help hover tooltip's to assist in choices and avoiding suprises, you can always look to the scripts that are run if you're suspicious.

" Windows isn't that bad if you clean it out with a stiff enough broom "

That said, I'm setting my grandkids up with Bazzite decks and forcing them to work in CLI's for a lot of things to get them used to seeing things under the hood.

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Post by tmtvl »

ttctciyf wrote: post #278
IshKebab wrote: post #234

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That's not the same thing at all.

No, it's not. It has various functionality, as shown by the built-in help: > Example output of the SysRq+h command: > sysrq: HELP : loglevel(0-9) reboot(b) crash(c) terminate-all-tasks(e) memory-full-oom-kill(f) kill-all-tasks(i) thaw-filesystems(j) sak(k) show-backtrace-all-active-cpus(l) show-memory-usage(m) nice-all-RT-tasks(n) poweroff(o) show-registers(p) show-all-timers(q) unraw(r) sync(s) show-task-states(t) u…

How's it go again, 'raising all elephants is utterly boring'?

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Post by MarsIronPI »

cosmic_cheese wrote: post #213
iknowstuff wrote: post #205

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There's far more of that, starting with the lack of a stable ABI in gnu/linux distros. Eventually Valve or Google (with Android) are gonna swoop in with a user-friendly, targetable by devs OS that's actually a single platform

I don't have a whole lot of faith in Google, based on considerable experience with developing for Android. Put plainly, it's a mess, and even with improvements in recent years there's enough low-hanging fruit for improving its developer story that much of it has fallen off the tree and stands a foot thick on the ground.

Except that Android doesn't have a fixed ABI either. Google Play requires apps to rebuild targeting the latest Android ABI all the time. They have one year after each release to update or be removed.

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Post by MarsIronPI »

api wrote: post #271
cosmic_cheese wrote: post #213

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I don't have a whole lot of faith in Google, based on considerable experience with developing for Android. Put plainly, it's a mess, and even with improvements in recent years there's enough low-hanging fruit for improving its developer story that much of it has fallen off the tree and stands a foot thick on the ground.

Mobile in general is a disappointment. iOS is better but not great. It was a real chance to get a lot of things right that sucked on desktop, and that chance was mostly squandered.

I'm absolutely not a normal user, but I love the experience on the Pinephone, because I can use the same stack as on desktop.

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Post by saagarjha »

butlike wrote: post #219
ZeroCool2u wrote: post #11

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Igalia is a bit unique as it serves as a single corporate entity for organizing a lot of sponsored work on the Linux kernel and open source projects. You'll notice in their blog posts they have collaborations with a number of other large companies seeking to sponsor very specific development work. For example, Google works with them a lot. I think it really just simplifies a lot of logistics for paying folks to do th…

Oh ok, so Igalia owns the developer sweatshops now. Got it.

And the developers own Igalia.
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