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The Walt Disney Company and OpenAI Partner on Sora

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Re: The Walt Disney Company and OpenAI Partner on Sora

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Post by buellerbueller »

squigz wrote: post #160
jeffwask wrote: post #130

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It's strange though because if you know anything about Disney and how the manage the characters in media and at the parks, they are extremely protective of the brand and image of the characters. Imagineers have very strict rules around virtual character meet and greets and etc. Allowing their characters to be used in AI generated content blows that all out of the water unless there are some extremely tight guard rail…

> They are a half step from flooding the market with Disney Princess porn. I would think that whatever demand there is for that is already filled.

rule 34 would strongly suggest that is not the case.

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Post by bloppe »

otterley wrote: post #239
dmix wrote: post #216

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The alternative is they make no money and people still produce them using other video gen tools without the copyright filters. Similar to the music industry piracy battle, it makes more sense to work with the big platforms than fight them.

I don’t see the similarity here. When music piracy was facilitated by corporate entities like Napster, the rights holders sued them out of existence, after which piracy evolved into a highly distributed problem that was too costly to prosecute (you can’t sue everyone using BitTorrent one by one). Yes, eventually the music rights holders did facilitate commercial distribution, starting with the iTunes Store, and it wa…

Buying GPUs and RAM is a bit of a barrier right now, but renting a cloud instance at Modal and running a model off hugging face is relatively affordable

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Post by sireat »

How about picture gen though on Dall-E?

It is so infuriating to get content block on ChatGPT for pretty much any fairy tale that has had a Disney related adaptation.

Try getting a Grimm's 19th century Snow White illustrations. You can not because the Disney crap supersedes it.

In fact you can not get a Snow White illustration of any kind on ChatGPT.

I can not figure out any prompts that would draw using public domain knowledge.

Same goes for a pirate fighting a flying boy - no good.

New one this week was when I tried to draw a border around my daughter's picture of a Poppy from Trolls(That's Dreamworks but same problem).

The actual copyrighted Poppy appeared in the border half way down the generation and then of course content block appeared.

What is hilarious though that ChatGPT will profusely apologize and provide extremely detailed instructions in setting up local Stable Diffusion as an alternative...

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Post by reactordev »

podgietaru wrote: post #120
giancarlostoro wrote: post #6

This will not end well for Disney, there were certain historical characters removed from Sora 2 because people kept making racist videos that are hard to censor, and it became increasingly unhinged. This feels like another circular investment where Disney is hoping to make money back I'm sure. On the other hand, assuming they do the freemium stuff, I look forward to making a few videos of my daughters favorite Disney…

I actually straight up don't think they give a shit anymore. I think decorum works in an environment where decorum is the norm, but we have entered a political moment where that is no longer the case. And I think that this kind of thing bleeds so heavily into culture that they no longer give a shit about having their characters next to it. They have enough plausible deniability; they did not create the content. I thi…

Besides, the character they built their empire on is in the public domain now.

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Post by dvfjsdhgfv »

afavour wrote: post #233
podgietaru wrote: post #120

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I actually straight up don't think they give a shit anymore. I think decorum works in an environment where decorum is the norm, but we have entered a political moment where that is no longer the case. And I think that this kind of thing bleeds so heavily into culture that they no longer give a shit about having their characters next to it. They have enough plausible deniability; they did not create the content. I thi…

When I became a parent I was really surprised at how much crap Disney puts out. My previous exposure had just been their blockbuster movies which showed a close attention to detail. But you scratch under the surface and it's an endless pile of awful quality clothing, crappy lunchboxes, that kind of thing. To the point where you assume it's an unauthorized rip off until you discover they license to anyone. And to say…

> To the point where you assume it's an unauthorized rip off until you discover they license to anyone.

That's because people consider Disney an entertainment company whereas in fact its the biggest licensing company in the world.

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Post by DarkNova6 »

otterley wrote: post #181

What mad world are we living in where Disney — Disney — is paying someone to lose control over its IP?

Disney has been a wannabe tech company for the longest of times. They started the streaming Wars with Disney+ and have had massive spend on AI already. There is virtually no creative or artistic talent left in the company.

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Post by littlecorner »

zahlman wrote: post #222
jerf wrote: post #144

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"there were certain historical characters removed from Sora 2 because people kept making racist videos that are hard to censor, and it became increasingly unhinged" Also Google "Elsagate" to see what sorts of things people would like to do with Disney characters. Or a YouTube search for Elsagate. The other thing I'd point out is that people kind of seem to forget this, but it isn't a requirement that AI video be gene…

> Also Google "Elsagate" to see what sorts of things people would like to do with Disney characters. Or a YouTube search for Elsagate.... Elsagate shows the level of effort that people are willing to put into this (a strange combination of laziness, but extreme effort poured into enabling that laziness). I still wonder what motivates the people behind that sort of thing. It'd be easy to understand if it were just por…

There's an instinct in many of us to destroy and pervert, and it can lead to very dark places.

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Post by moralestapia »

giancarlostoro wrote: post #6

This will not end well for Disney, there were certain historical characters removed from Sora 2 because people kept making racist videos that are hard to censor, and it became increasingly unhinged. This feels like another circular investment where Disney is hoping to make money back I'm sure. On the other hand, assuming they do the freemium stuff, I look forward to making a few videos of my daughters favorite Disney…

>This will not end well for Disney [...]

Guy on the internet knows more about businesses than a 200 billion century-old corporation.

A classic.

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