Zig quits GitHub, says Microsoft's AI obsession has ruined the service

Post by TheDong » Wed, Dec 03, 2025, 2:32 PM UTC

foldr wrote: post #222

baq wrote: post #204

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A competent developer should be aware of the tools of the trade. I'm not saying a competent developer should be proficient in using gerrit, but they should know that it isn't an obscure tool - it's a google-sponsored project handling millions of lines of code internally in google and externally. It's like calling golang an obscure language when all you ever did is java or typescript.

It’s silly to assume that someone isn’t competent just because you know about a tool that they don’t know about. The inverse is almost certainly also true. Is there some kind of Google-centrism at work here? Most devs don’t work at Google or contribute to Google projects, so there is no reason for them to know anything about Gerrit.

Post by styanax » Wed, Dec 03, 2025, 2:40 PM UTC

lawn wrote: post #301

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On the previous HN article, I recall many a comment talking about how they should change this, leave the politics/negative juju out because it was a bad look for the Zig community. It would appear they listened to that feedback, swallowed their ego/pride and did what was best for the Zig community with these edits. I commend them for their actions in doing what's best for the community at the cost of some personal me…

Eh, it looks like they want to hide that they call people monkeys and losers . If they would own up to it and say sorry, then your point stands. But that's not what happened here.

Post by CafeRacer » Wed, Dec 03, 2025, 2:48 PM UTC

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I'd rather solve advent of code in brainfuck than have to debug their CI workflows ever again.

Surely you just need the workflow to not have embedded logic but call out to a task manager so you can do the same locally?

Post by throwawaypath » Wed, Dec 03, 2025, 2:51 PM UTC

latexr wrote: post #55

NitpickLawyer wrote: post #22

Last week the reason for the move was MS tools being used by the baddies. Today AI is the baddie du jour. To use a great quote "either do or don't, but I got places to be".

The original post was specifically about technical grievances, “MS tools being used by the baddies” was mentioned only in passing. https://ziglang.org/news/migrating-from-github-to-codeberg/ > Putting aside GitHub’s relationship with ICE That was the extent of it. Six words. Furthermore, this submission is an independent post, not from Zig , reporting on the original and adding more context. > To use a great quote "e…

Post by chrisweekly » Wed, Dec 03, 2025, 2:52 PM UTC

Yizahi wrote: post #273

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I often find we don't appreciate enough people accepting their failures and changing their mind. For some reason I see the opposite: people respecting those who "stick to their guns" or double down when something is clearly wrong. As you say, the context matters and these edits seem to be learning from the feedback rather than saving face since the sentiment stands, just in a less needlessly targeted way.

Well, it's not like it's a simple black and white situation, universally applicable to every debate in human history. Sometimes it is relatively better to be open-minded and able to change own opinion. Sometimes it is relatively better to keep pushing a point if it is rational and/or morally correct. The reason why the latter stance is often popularized and cheered is because it is often harder to do, especially in t…