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Valve is about to win the console generation

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Re: Valve is about to win the console generation

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This is another status quo improvement from Valve. Great job!

That said, I feel we're trading evil gaming monopolies for a less evil monopoly. I can only truly support Valve once they start actually selling games rather than game "licenses".

What I want is GOG's transparency and philosophy with Valve's Linux and hardware investments.

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As much as I love hacking with various things, there are reasons why I buy "closed products" for myself and for my family. I like to do hacking when I want it (with ESP32, rpi etc). I don't want to be forced to serve as a free IT support guy anytime someone presses a wrong button. When it comes to gaming consoles, I want them to serve reliably to my family. The game console must be fun, optimized for best experience…

> I don't want to be forced to serve as a free IT support guy anytime someone presses a wrong button.

In my experience this doesn't really end whether it's a closed product or not. If you're wiling to give free IT support, people will take it, as it's likely way faster/better than calling whatever support may or may not be offered by the company.

> Will that be possible with an open platform where anyone can install anything?

I can't see why these have anything to do with each other? If your brother goes out of his way to install a bunch of stuff and breaks everything, how can you possibly blame the system and not your brother?

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Valve certainly won't win it, but they're bringing the heat where it wasn't before. SteamOS is the important part here - if it is proven to be a good console experience (which the deck has basically proven already) then licensing of the OS to other manufacturers will put a lot of pressure on integrated h/w s/w manufacturers. Unlike the handheld format, the tvbox console is fairly easy to manufacture and is tolerant o…

Steam needs IP. Something as iconic as Kratos or Mario. That's how you go toe to toe with consoles.

What IP does Sony or MS have these days that would sell consoles? They fumbled Halo completely and Sony exclusives are now all on PC. Nintendo does have their Zelda and Mario that they have taken care of well for decades but Steam has.. every PC and console game with an emulator

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post #187

Valve certainly won't win it, but they're bringing the heat where it wasn't before. SteamOS is the important part here - if it is proven to be a good console experience (which the deck has basically proven already) then licensing of the OS to other manufacturers will put a lot of pressure on integrated h/w s/w manufacturers. Unlike the handheld format, the tvbox console is fairly easy to manufacture and is tolerant o…

> reasonably priced storage upgrades To be fair to Sony here, the PS5 uses a normal m.2 NVME SSD for storage upgrades.

And the ps3/ps4 before it used 2.5 inch sata drives.

Re: Valve is about to win the console generation

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That's a lot of guesswork for such a strong claim as yours. You can actually see gaming distribution on open steamdb[1] stats and every year the amount of games avg player plays grows higher and higher. A linux native game called Banana got almost a million concurrent player peak (compared to #1 CS2 having only 1.8M). This didn't exist 10 years ago - the gaming landscape is entirely different in 2025. This call that…

The reality of native Linux gaming must be really sad if the top example is in essence "NFT" generator with minimal if no gameplay... It is essentially a software toy people left running to generate random items some of which ended up being speculated on generating some money for "players".

The last 3 games I played on Linux were Hades 2, Hearthstone, Baldurs Gate 3. It is not a sad state of affairs at all

Re: Valve is about to win the console generation

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Valve certainly won't win it, but they're bringing the heat where it wasn't before. SteamOS is the important part here - if it is proven to be a good console experience (which the deck has basically proven already) then licensing of the OS to other manufacturers will put a lot of pressure on integrated h/w s/w manufacturers. Unlike the handheld format, the tvbox console is fairly easy to manufacture and is tolerant o…

SteamOS isn't perfect, but it's "open" to mods like a PS5 or XBOX will never be. As an avid console gamer it's time to go back to my roots.

I don't know -- per Microsoft's recent announcement.. the Xbox will basically be a Windows PC in a tiny package. So, no more Xbox Live needed to play online and you can install other marketplaces on there (such as Epic and GOG).

Re: Valve is about to win the console generation

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Steam needs IP. Something as iconic as Kratos or Mario. That's how you go toe to toe with consoles.

There is something vaguely amusing to me about complaining that Valve of Half-Life , Counter Strike , Portal , Team Fortress and Dota fame doesn’t have IP and giving as an alternative what I view as a minor IP, God of War . Apparently, people have forgotten that what launched Steam is it being required to play game of the decade Half-Life 2 . I think I’m old.

They might make Half-Life 3 PC exclusive.

Re: Valve is about to win the console generation

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My main game console right now is one of those little gaming boxes you can buy on Amazon for about $400, where I have installed NixOS + Jovian to get the "SteamOS" interface. I really like it. It really does feel like a "game console"; usually when I've made my own console using Linux, it always feels kind of janky. For example, RetroPie on the Raspberry Pi is pretty cool, but it doesn't feel like a proper commercial…

I installed NixOS + Jovian on my Steamdeck and it works great as well.

Nix support is built-in to SteamOS already btw, I used that to set up Ship of Harkinian for example.
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