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Re: ChatGPT Atlas

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Post by Analemma_ »

Skunkleton wrote: post #264
tim333 wrote: post #245

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I tried making it my default browser because of (4) You miss the most questionable bit which is asking for keychain access. I said no to that one.

A browser using your keychain seems like the least questionable bit, if anything.

Right, but most browsers aren't owned by money-losing startups desperate for any bit of training data they can get their hands on as scaling taps out.

I really doubt OpenAI consciously wants my passwords, but I could absolutely see a poorly-coded (or vibe-coded, lol) OpenAI process somehow getting my keychain into their training set anyway, and then somebody being able to ask Chat-GPT 6, "hey, what's Analemma_'s gmail password?" and it happily supplying it. The dismal state of LLM scraper behavior and its support (or lack thereof) of adherence to best practices lends credibility to this.

Re: ChatGPT Atlas

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Post by lxgr »

cekanoni wrote: post #277
ZeljkoS wrote: post #190

Here are the highlights from the .DMG installer screens ( https://imgur.com/a/Tu4TlNu ): 1. Turn on browser memories Allow ChatGPT to remember useful details as you browse to give smarter responses and proactive suggestions. You're in control - memories stay private. 2. Ask ChatGPT - on any website Open the ChatGPT sidebar on any website to summarize, explain, or handle tasks - right next to what you're browsing. 3.…

How can you trust company that says Privacy in your control or some nonsense like that, when they scraped the whole internet and breached the foundation of privacy :)

I do see the copyright/intellectual property angle of training LLMs on the entire web, but what's the privacy issue here?

If you publish something on the web, what are you expecting to happen?

Re: ChatGPT Atlas

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Post by CodeNest »

echelon wrote: post #42
mentalgear wrote: post #6

So openAI's answer to Perplexity's Comet. I'm afraid this will be the future, as these AI-browsers do truly bring value. But they open up the gate for a single Big Tech Winner that truly knows everything about you, and can even control everything on your behalf. I really hope open-source Browsers like Firefox follow up soon with better alternatives, like on-device LLMs to counteract the "all in the cloud" LLM approac…

If the DeepSeek approach to training hyperscaler models "cheaply" after all the hype wears down works, we just need to follow in their footsteps and build open source alternatives to everything. Frontier models take a lot of money and experimentation. But then people figure out how to train them and knowledge of those models and approaches leaks. Furthermore, we can make informed guesses. But best of all, we can exfi…

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Re: ChatGPT Atlas

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Post by SeanAnderson »

alberth wrote: post #244
SeanAnderson wrote: post #222

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The website states pretty clearly that you have the ability to disable it on any sensitive pages.

But we all know the power of defaults. And by default, it will screen read & train from that data - no?

Conceptually, yes. Practically? I think their lawyers might be a little concerned about seeing them feed banking data into their models and have them drop it behind the scenes, or at least anonymizing it heavily first.

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Post by sloankev »

Im still weary of OpenAI being legally required to retain all of your data even if you delete it [0] . This means everything you expose to this tool will be permanently stored somewhere. Why isn’t this a bigger problem for people?

Even privacy concerns aside… this would be the world’s most catastrophic data leak.

[0]: https://openai.com/index/response-to-nyt-data-demands/

Re: ChatGPT Atlas

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Post by [deleted] »

Analemma_ wrote: post #302
Skunkleton wrote: post #264

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A browser using your keychain seems like the least questionable bit, if anything.

Right, but most browsers aren't owned by money-losing startups desperate for any bit of training data they can get their hands on as scaling taps out. I really doubt OpenAI consciously wants my passwords, but I could absolutely see a poorly-coded (or vibe-coded, lol) OpenAI process somehow getting my keychain into their training set anyway, and then somebody being able to ask Chat-GPT 6, "hey, what's Analemma_'s gmai…

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Re: ChatGPT Atlas

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Post by terhechte »

tim333 wrote: post #245
ZeljkoS wrote: post #190

Here are the highlights from the .DMG installer screens ( https://imgur.com/a/Tu4TlNu ): 1. Turn on browser memories Allow ChatGPT to remember useful details as you browse to give smarter responses and proactive suggestions. You're in control - memories stay private. 2. Ask ChatGPT - on any website Open the ChatGPT sidebar on any website to summarize, explain, or handle tasks - right next to what you're browsing. 3.…

I tried making it my default browser because of (4) You miss the most questionable bit which is asking for keychain access. I said no to that one.

Weird, I didn't get that question. It asked for full disk access so it could import my Safari settings, but that was optional.

Re: ChatGPT Atlas

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Post by sloankev »

sloankev wrote: post #306

Im still weary of OpenAI being legally required to retain all of your data even if you delete it [0] . This means everything you expose to this tool will be permanently stored somewhere. Why isn’t this a bigger problem for people? Even privacy concerns aside… this would be the world’s most catastrophic data leak. [0]: https://openai.com/index/response-to-nyt-data-demands/

They literally created a precedent that’s it’s for use in legal cases if required… why would you want your entire digital life subject to subpoena?
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