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What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Post by dylan604 »

carlosjobim wrote: post #272
justinclift wrote: post #252

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> A wedding is one of the most fundamentally public events that have ever existed. Not sure why you think that? Although weddings can be in public places, they don't have to be and it's quite common for only invited guests (ie not the public) to be present.

It's still a public event even if everyone is not invited. English lacks the word to differentiate between "public" as "no secret, out in the open" and "public" as in "free for all and gratis". In this case we're talking about a public wedding as opposed to a secret wedding. Thus: A normal wedding with a normal amount of invited guests is one of the most non-secret events to exist. Asking for no photos is like partic…

> Thus: A normal wedding with a normal amount of invited guests is one of the most non-secret events to exist

private !== secret

You seem to have this concept crossed in your thinking. Just because people know about it doesn't make it not private. Try getting into an event at Davos. Try getting into any well known event without an invitation. You'll see just how not public they are.

The fact that people think it is acceptable to post pictures of other people on their social sites says it all. This couple's request is not egregious. Just because you can't imagine not posting something doesn't mean everyone else thinks the same way. This is just another example to me of how few people think of others first, and only ever think about "me me me"

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Post by footy »

insertchatbot wrote: post #134
ljm wrote: post #48

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I expect an airsoft venue is actually a private space, not a public one. Airsoft but-actually-in-public would have people concerned about a terrorist attack, not being recorded for insta. To that extent, the hobbyists who like to create content for the internet should be asking for consent since their footage, and arguably their clout, depends on the participation of everybody else in the group. Otherwise they're jus…

And also, some people could suffer real damages. Imagine if someone is lying to their wife about what they do on the weekend or about who they've gone to a conference with. Or imagine if someone has found themselves with dangerous enemies who discover where they go, what they do and with whom. At the moment, these things are not the problem of the person taking the video

right. My younger sister was stalked by a crazy ex for years.

According to some of the people here that would mean she had no right to participate in a regular activity.

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Post by mothballed »

waste_monk wrote: post #267
mothballed wrote: post #193

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I'm no ITAR expert either, but IDK how wearing a T-shirt could possibly be an export. My lay understanding of export is that the information would somehow have to leave the country; if someone looks at the T-shirt and transmits it out the country they'd be the exporter, not the person wearing the T-shirt. If someone records the t-shirt and transmits it, they'd be the exporter.

>My lay understanding of export is that the information would somehow have to leave the country; It's not just physical items like munitions, but also things like transfers of information (blueprints, technical data, documentation, etc.) or services being performed, regardless of where (inside or outside the USA) or how (paper, electronic, verbal, etc.) it takes place. Have a look at [1] § 120.50 (Export) and § 120.6…

Hmm... I'd be interested to look at any 1A cases regarding that. I'm unable to find any 1A exceptions regarding mere information on weapons. The US is allowed to suspend constitutional rights at border controls, which is how they prevent exporting the information outside the US, but I'd bet dollars to donuts the blueprints/information part is unenforceable as non-commercial speech within the US.

Here's an example of T-shirt with a machinegun blueprint on it for instance, for sale in USA without any checks as to your immigration status [note US law considers a device that induces automatic fire as a 'machinegun' despite the fact the device itself isn't really a gun]:

https://ctrlpew.com/product/yankee-boogle-tee-gatalog-editio...

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Post by dahart »

jen729w wrote: post #11

I get it, but the alternative is what? Get model release forms from anyone in a public space every time you turn your video camera on? Who's to say how much of you I have in the shot? Do you feature? Did you flash by? Are you blurred? Recognisable? I was shooting video of a car park exit last year. (I was trying to prove to the shopping centre owners that it was dangerous.) Mundane footage. Some lady drives out in he…

> Do you feature?

Yes, this is what the author is concerned about. There’s a big difference between being filmed incidentally, and being filmed on purpose for the activity you’re engaged in. Being accidentally in the background is one thing, while being the subject of a video and having the camera aimed at you is another. Even though public photography is also legal where I live, and I believe we should keep that right, if I filmed close-ups of people in the car park getting in and out of their cars, I’d expect most people would object and find it uncomfortable.

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Post by hedora »

lm28469 wrote: post #172
mcv wrote: post #92

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I read up on PLA when I got my 3D printer because it's popular material for that. From what I understand, it's biodegradable above 50° C. Not something you'll find outside Death Valley. Still better than most other options, but it would be nice if we had something that was stable for weeks and then degrades nicely.

Not all PLA are created equal though. Raw PLA pellets won't behave the same way a 3d printer filament choke full of dyes, additives to make them more UV resistance, &c. There are plenty of posts of people putting 3d prints in compost piles, for months or years, and visually not much happens. Even stuff advertiser as bio don't fare that well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tavrkWrazWI

If you dig up a sufficiently old landfill you’ll find pristine newspapers.

The idea that you can coat much more resilient stuff in PFAS and label it “biodegradable” is at least as big a scam as California’s $0.10 “reusable” bags, or mixed stream recycling.

I’m for taking each use of plastic, by global volume, and then banning them, in order.

We should probably start with fishing nets.

Alternatively, the industry should need to produce 200% as much post-consumer recycled plastic made from the same grade as they’re manufacturing. This would act as a tax, strongly encouraging investment in more sustainable materials. Maybe drop that to 150% if the plastic in the product is 100% recycled.

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Post by humanfromearth9 »

Gigachad wrote: post #83
aeve890 wrote: post #75

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>but it’s also just part of life. Yeah? Who said that? Any selfish person can say the same about anything. "Yeah my dog shat your lawn but that's just part of life. Deal with it". What's part of life is different for everyone. >I get annoyed when people smoke in public or pointlessly honk horns at night. Yeah that's annoying, but neither the smoke or the honk are records of your private life published without consent…

I personally don’t believe that filming airsoft is unreasonable. It’s not unreasonable for OP to not like it, but the majority are either fine with it or filming themselves. So it’s a situation of either dealing with it, or finding a new group to hang out with.

The problem is not being filmed, when the recording is used in small circles. The problem is when it's published for the world to see.

As a rule of thumb, for my children at school, I refuse any use of their image if it's not for something that was already possible in the eighties.

Publishing school party pictures and videos for the whole world to see was impossible in the 80s, I thus don't allow it and if it happens, it's an invasion of their private life (as per Belgian law at least).

Hanging on the school walls some pictures of the classes, or children, doing some activities: that's OK, it could already be done in the 80s and might be useful for the school community. Publishing these in a printed yearbook: I accept. Publishing it on the Internet in electronic format: this was not possible in the 80s, thus I refuse.

I think this time strikes a nice balance for everyone involved.

By the way, in Belgium, you are allowed to film in public places, but not to misuse the image of others if it's disrespecting their private life, unless for legal requirements.

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Post by Extropy_ »

It's clear that "privacy " in public spaces requires a fair bit of entitlement, why can't we all just love one another and let it go? What harm comes from being in someone's cool AirSoft video? Is it just a matter of principle that bothers you or something deeper?

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Post by serallak »

RajT88 wrote: post #160
siva7 wrote: post #69

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There are lots of young people who have some conception and respect of privacy and there are people who haven't. That's not a generational thing.. It's just that those without awareness of boundaries have now all the tech that screams in their face to stream everything to the world without consent. I can assure you that still lots of young folks are annoyed by those people.

Agree. I went to a family gathering recently, and my wife's cousin was walking around live streaming. People were pissed once they figured out that private conversations were uploading live to the internet. The same guy did similar when his mom was on her death bed. Jesus Christ.

A friend that was going to deliver a child told us about a dad-to-be that was going around the maternity ward making videos ...

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Post by serial_dev »

greenavocado wrote: post #217
lcnPylGDnU4H9OF wrote: post #214

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> People were pissed once they figured out that private conversations were uploading love to the internet. Audio is different from video. This is technically illegal, as consent is explicitly required in the law for audio recording.

Most states in the United States allow one one-party consent for audio recordings.

I get that for whistleblowers, journalists, investigators, ... I don't think it's relevant for a birthday party with children.

If it's me, I'm leaving the party. If it's my children attending, I'm strongly recommending them to leave the party (or just leave with them, depending on their age). Live-streaming a birthday party of children is obnoxious behavior that should not be tolerated.

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