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Re: Vapor chamber tech keeps iPhone 17 Pro cool

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Keep in mind that the Sony-Ericsson smartphones from 25 years ago did not fail to advance as time marched on. By the time the iPhone was revealed the Sonys at the time made Apples look pretty dumb by comparison.

Ah, yes I do think the older generation of phones were more durable. My point was that the technology had a significant change and there's at least 2 different generations of products called "phones" in that time period and comparing them against each other on durability is not a reasonable argument

It's not a matter of durability, it's basic "smartness".

Sony had regular ordinary quick-change batteries, at least their own Memory Sticks for removable storage before they ended up settling for SD cards, plus the essential USB connection in addition to bluetooth to connect you to your PC to at least use the PC OS to handle the file management of the phone.

And there was always the PC software suite for Sony owners so you could get your PC online before there were hotspots, and you could do texting and make calls from the PC, update the phone, install phone apps from the PC, etc. You could consider the phone a peripheral of the PC, or the PC a peripheral of the phone. And integration was supposed to continue getting better from there.

Like a normal smartphone way before the iPhone appeared, which the iPhone had none of the established hallmarks of smartness, except that it was on the internet. Plus it was locked down in annoying ways never before seen.

Jobs was pretty intense with his reality distortion efforts, he got people to believe until this day that smartphones didn't exist until he had success with it. What it really was was that established smartphones were about $500 and almost nobody was going to pay that so naturally they were not flying off the shelf any more than they ever had been. It was actually widely considered pretty stupid to pay that much for a phone at the time unless you were deeply in need of those connected features.

He convinced enough people that phones had never been so "smart" since there were so few having any experience with them. But why stop there? While he was at it he got his fans to pay almost $1000 too.

Re: Vapor chamber tech keeps iPhone 17 Pro cool

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Never used a screen protector, have been using iPhones since iPhone 3G, never shattered or cracked a screen. I started using a silicone case with iPhone 6S as found it was slippy. Have a leather case for iPhone 15 Pro but considering going naked again.

You are really lucky. I broke several screens and my wife also (on 2nd day of iPhone 6s it fell into concrete). Since then I’ve never been without a screen protector and I break it at least 3 times a year. Maybe the screen wouldn’t have broke and the SP did ? I won’t take the risk given the price of the SP vs the pain of changing a screen. The last time I tried to go naked the 13 pro max fell from my pocket because t…

What does a screen protector have to do with the border getting dented?

Re: Vapor chamber tech keeps iPhone 17 Pro cool

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You are really lucky. I broke several screens and my wife also (on 2nd day of iPhone 6s it fell into concrete). Since then I’ve never been without a screen protector and I break it at least 3 times a year. Maybe the screen wouldn’t have broke and the SP did ? I won’t take the risk given the price of the SP vs the pain of changing a screen. The last time I tried to go naked the 13 pro max fell from my pocket because t…

What does a screen protector have to do with the border getting dented?

Sorry I meant the border of the screen protector and the frame as well in the fall. Maybe the screen would have survived but phones are so slippery that without protections it’s a big risk

Re: Vapor chamber tech keeps iPhone 17 Pro cool

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post #114

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You are very from US to think that. Samsung strong in Europe.

Tell me when was the last time you heard boomers talk about Samsung. Never happened. Now how many times has nana mentioned "the iPhone" specifically? Also not from the US, I live in Thailand. Everyone wants an iPhone. Those who can't afford it buy Oppo, etc. Samsung may be "strong" in Europe but it's just because it's colorful and/or cheaper. You live in the HN bubble if you think that people care about specs and not…

> The choice is generally "Either Apple or whatever else in my budget"

Lol dude, stop acting like you know what's happening in my part of the world. People only care about apple because all major news outlets are payed by apple to talk about it when they hold their yearly sales pitch.

People don't act like this with any other product/manufacturer etc.

Re: Vapor chamber tech keeps iPhone 17 Pro cool

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Yeah, I never understand these caseless discussions. I went caseless once since I didn't realize my case would arrive a week after I bought the phone. The phone was slippery (couldn't temporarily rest it on my knee), and I found myself inspecting the restaurant/bar table any time I put the phone down after that one night I placed it right into a puddle of beer condensation and some mysterious food that got in the mic…

The caseless argument is that a multi-thousand dollar device shouldn't be so fragile that you MUST wrap it in plastic to be in any way functional. A $1k phone SHOULD NOT be a frictionless glass prism. It should not skate away from you ob smooth surfaces. It should not be destroyed by falling 3 inches onto a hard surface. It should have some durability inherent to it. But instead apple spends billions of dollars makin…

Well, you're not technically wrong.

But 99% of people won't like the solution where this has to work out of the box

Every moderately "needs impact resistance" in the prosumer/professional sector either comes with a case, or has a "builtin" case, making it thicker/heavier. Just search for 'Cat mobile phones'

A grain of sand will scratch most metals and most glass surfaces, even hardened ones. If Apple managed to make this more resistant props to them, but it is not infallible

Vandalism resistant electronics are thick and have glass/polycarbonate/acrylic combinations that don't look good for the most part but will take a baseball bat like a champ

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