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Do you know how many other INFINITELY LESS EXPENSIVE forms of marketing there are? Of course it's marketing, Ryan Dahl even said openly "I can justify spending money on it because it does get Deno's name out there" on Twitter.
But yeah sure this is just an evil plot to get you to use a free MIT licensed runtime or a cloud hosting provider.
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It's PR. First the petition and now this fundraiser. Sorry but it feels more like a stunt than anything sincere otherwise they would front the money. They certainly have the funds for it.
Yes. Ryan Dahl has openly said this. It isn't a "gotcha" nor is it something they're hiding. Tweet from Ryan Dahl: > I can justify spending money on it because it does get Deno's name out there - blog posts posted to http://deno.com , etc - but without support it's pretty likely our legal bills will dwarf whatever that marketing is worth
I can't be the only one who believes the name JavaScript should die in Peace. It was and still is the worst naming of any popular programming language in existence.
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You seem to be implying that it is bad because it is marketing, and marketing is bad. But not all forms of marketing are bad. This is a classic association fallacy[1]. In this case, Deno can both improve perception of their brand and reclaim "JavaScript" -- it's a win-win. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_fallacy
> But not all forms of marketing are bad. This is a classic association fallacy This is the classic "I'd accused your argument of being a fallacy so you're wrong and I'm right fallacy". Nah, all forms of marketing are bad.
You seem to be saying that Deno reclaiming JavaScript is a bad thing? Why?
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I am only making conclusions based on what I see, and I comment hoping people can tell me how I am wrong. I am still trying to figure this out, but all evidence points to what I said. People never "do good" "just for the sake of it" - there is always a reason, whether or not the person realizes it. The reason could be, e.g., as I said, the desire to seem good, some kind of religious belief, etc. Ultimately, it is nev…
You're a very sad, very confused person. I genuinely mean this: seek help. Or at least a hug.
Instead of labeling or patronizing them, a bit of tact and compassion go a long way. Otherwise you're just confirming what they're predisposed to think.
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No, it still causes confusion from new programmers, HR, execs who thinks JavaScript === writing Java Scripts. We're all in on TypeScript now and I don't think they're teaching Java much in university or boot camps anymore so it doesn't matter much anyway. But when every other intern came in thinking programming WAS Java.... Not great. Having to never utter "JavaScript" again wasn't the primary motivation to move to T…
> I don't think they're teaching Java much in university or boot camps anymore so it doesn't matter much anyway That might just be the bubble you are in. Java is still one of the biggest languages used in corporations across the globes for anything backend related. If it is because it is a modern COBOL or because it actually is a stable language with a solid ecosystem might be a matter of some debate. In the circles…
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No, it still causes confusion from new programmers, HR, execs who thinks JavaScript === writing Java Scripts. We're all in on TypeScript now and I don't think they're teaching Java much in university or boot camps anymore so it doesn't matter much anyway. But when every other intern came in thinking programming WAS Java.... Not great. Having to never utter "JavaScript" again wasn't the primary motivation to move to T…
> No, it still causes confusion from new programmers, HR, execs who thinks JavaScript === writing Java Scripts. Anyone that stupid in 2025 is hopeless.
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Seems a worthy community contribution on first glance. Just to check on a maybe obvious question, Deno is not trademarked is it?
Does it matter? When I say deno, you think of the software product deno, produced by deno. Just like when I say coca cola, you think of the specific drink produced by the coca cola company. What I say escalator, you don't think of that specific company's products, but of the staircase conveyor. When I say javascript, do you think of any oracle product? No! So why should users of javascript live in fear of a lawsuite…
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Does it matter? When I say deno, you think of the software product deno, produced by deno. Just like when I say coca cola, you think of the specific drink produced by the coca cola company. What I say escalator, you don't think of that specific company's products, but of the staircase conveyor. When I say javascript, do you think of any oracle product? No! So why should users of javascript live in fear of a lawsuite…
Oh it very much matters. Folks are questioning the legitimacy of this endeavour. It’d be total hypocracy for them to be freeing JavaScript from Oracle and stating trademarks are bad and then to be maintaining similar themselves.
Also Deno is not claiming that trademarks are bad, they’re claiming that JavaScript is a commonly used term.