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Re: Man jailed for parole violations after refusing to decrypt his Tor node

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post #248

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Kiwifarms is a forum that mainly is about chronicling the life events of people it can laugh at, often those suffering from mental illness. Oftentimes, kiwifarms users directly harass or manipulate their targets to try to provoke more weird behavior, usually directly making the target's life worse in the process. I can see why it's entertaining for folk (kind of like watching reality television), but overall it seems…

What does it mean to be "closely tied to Ethan Ralph"?

No idea, sorry. Google seems to indicate he's some kind of podcaster.

Re: Man jailed for parole violations after refusing to decrypt his Tor node

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I'm more focused on the assertion that "The CFAA isn't super complicated." Which raises sincere doubts about the commenter's credibility to make such a claim.

How does „you’re not allowed to guess credentials“ mean it’s complicated?

I think that's a massive oversimplification of how the CFAA has been applied.

Re: Man jailed for parole violations after refusing to decrypt his Tor node

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post #110

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This always happens though. Every time someone is thrown in a cage unjustly, the state tries to redirect us (yes, us, here in this forum and others like it) to look at other details of the situation, whether it's details of the person's political or personality or, in this case, details of this (also seemingly unjust) probation violation. Who cares if he smoked weed or installed a VM or evaded a government keylogger?…

It seems like those are very easy terms to follow, that he agreed to . If someone who did some serious stuff, couldn't follow easy terms, it is cause for concern.

I've helped people released onto parole for years. It's tough. The terms might seem easy, but often aren't in practice. Most people have a history of addiction and/or mental illness and suddenly they are thrown into a world where everything is available for a price, and any medical help they were given is suddenly taken away and the life where everything was done for them (food cooked, clothes washed) is gone.

The majority are returned to prison within days/weeks/months of release.

Re: Man jailed for parole violations after refusing to decrypt his Tor node

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post #259

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The setup of Tor has some specific dates in the transcript. Page 10 3 Q. So, Ms. Routh, having been acknowledged of his 4 obligations to monitor and pay for the service on 5 August 29th, can you please tell the Court how 6 Mr. Rockenhaus complied or didn't comply with the terms 7 of his release? 8 A. Yes. On September 22nd the defendant did 9 successfully download the monitoring software program 10 on his computer. O…

It would have been extraordinarily dumb for someone on parole electronic monitoring to install Tor, but my understanding of Tor's role in the bigger story is that it's about stuff that was happening many years ago. There's nothing about Tor in the parole violation warrant; just that he had an unauthorized iPhone, and when they did a forensic inspection of it, there were no further violations discovered on that phone.

https://trellis.law/doc/district/8373835/united-states-v-roc...

The defendant plead nolo contendere (no contest) in 2014. Any activity between 2014 and 2019 was under supervision restrictions. Any use of Tor during that period would likely be an issue.

Page 6 of 8:

    You must not purchase, possess, have contact with, or otherwise use any device that can be connected to the Internet or used to store digital materials, other than that approved by the U.S. Probation Office. You must allow the U.S. Probation Office to install software on any approved device that is designed to record any and all activity on the device the defendant may use, including but not limited to capture of keystrokes, application information, Internet use history, e-mail correspondence, pictures, and chat conversations. You will pay any costs related to the monitoring of his authorized device and must advise anyone in the household that may use an authorized device in question that monitoring software has been installed. If you need access to an employer owned Internet-equipped device for employment purposes, you must advise your probation officer before using the device. The probation officer will ensure the employer is aware of the criminal history, and you must agree to use the device for work purposes only.

    You must not attempt to remove, tamper with, or in any way circumvent the monitoring software, and must disclose all on-line account information, including usernames and passwords, to the U.S. Probation Office. If requested, you must provide a list of all software/hardware on your computer, as well as telephone, cable, or Internet service provider billing records, and any other information deemed necessary by the probation office to monitor your computer usage.

    You must not access Tor or participate in any online social environment (i.e., Facebook, Twitter, Second Life, Linkedin, Craigslist, FaceTime, WhatsApp, video/audio, etc.) or texting applications, which allow the user interaction unless pre-approved and authorized by the probation officer and Court.
His activity, no matter how it is framed, was in violation of the supervision orders.

Furthermore, he worked to circumvent the monitoring software in September of 2019 and had no internet activity recorded in October of 2019.

> 1. Back in 2014 this person committed a pretty grave computer offense, which was not at the time prosecuted.

> 2. Some time after that, he became a high-profile Tor relay operator.

> 3. Some time after that, he was asked to subvert those Tor relays by the DOJ.

It wasn't prosecuted because he plead no contest. After that, the use of Tor was in violation of supervision. I read #3 as "you're not running the monitoring software as required" which would subvert the exit nodes... but he shouldn't have been running them in the first place.

Re: Man jailed for parole violations after refusing to decrypt his Tor node

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"CFAA offense" You can catch one of these by logging into your moms netflix account.

Some of the CFAA has been dialed back by the courts, but CFAA is a federal level offense. The scarier ones exist at the state level, e.g. Illinois specifically criminalizes violating the terms and conditions of a web site.

Re: Man jailed for parole violations after refusing to decrypt his Tor node

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post #296

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For sure, and I’m often the one who makes the list, and one with root. But the big thing is to do it quickly, like within the hour, and diligently. Don’t say, oh, I’ll give him a chance to access his email and download stuff, or whatever. No! Like, cut me off completely right now. Then, if something breaks down the road, there’s no temptation for them to wonder if I had anything to do with that weird failure. (And ob…

Yeah, I usually stress to employers and clients that I want to be cut off quickly, and usually remind them of what they need to lock me out of when I leave. Even then, I've had clients for whom things have broken come to me in despair hoping I'd kept access . The day one of them for whatever reason decides to suspect that I was the one to break things, I will be very happy to be able to point to consistently having d…

I've had that, too! Fairly recently, an ex client who sold their business to someone with a full-time IT staff asked me if I had the password to unlock their NAS. No, I didn't. I turned all those over to the IT staff, strongly recommended that they change them, and deleted my local copies. Sorry, but no, I can't help you with that.

Re: Man jailed for parole violations after refusing to decrypt his Tor node

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For sure, and I’m often the one who makes the list, and one with root. But the big thing is to do it quickly, like within the hour, and diligently. Don’t say, oh, I’ll give him a chance to access his email and download stuff, or whatever. No! Like, cut me off completely right now. Then, if something breaks down the road, there’s no temptation for them to wonder if I had anything to do with that weird failure. (And ob…

I agree with the overall point. (And WTH would you ever have things you need to download in your work email?) But there's not an employer I have ever left that I couldn't have done extensive damage to without any permissions at all. Not that I would ever add a felony charge to even the most bitter firing, but I could.

I'm sure that's probably true for all of us, to some extent. Things holding me back:

1. It's wrong. That's not how my parents raised me.

2. I value and protect my reputation.

3. I want to be able to have another job in the field without being permanently deny-listed.

4. Prison sounds awful.

Re: Man jailed for parole violations after refusing to decrypt his Tor node

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post #304

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It would have been extraordinarily dumb for someone on parole electronic monitoring to install Tor, but my understanding of Tor's role in the bigger story is that it's about stuff that was happening many years ago. There's nothing about Tor in the parole violation warrant; just that he had an unauthorized iPhone, and when they did a forensic inspection of it, there were no further violations discovered on that phone.

https://trellis.law/doc/district/8373835/united-states-v-roc... The defendant plead nolo contendere (no contest) in 2014. Any activity between 2014 and 2019 was under supervision restrictions. Any use of Tor during that period would likely be an issue. Page 6 of 8: You must not purchase, possess, have contact with, or otherwise use any device that can be connected to the Internet or used to store digital materials, o…

I don't think this is accurate. I think the charged conduct occurred in 2014, but from what I see on PACER, the prosecution (and subsequent plea) was in 2019.

Re: Man jailed for parole violations after refusing to decrypt his Tor node

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post #238

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> "the guy was a criminal anyway" He violated 6 or 7 criminal things. I'm on the civil rights and free speech maxxing side, but this was clearly a criminal in the act of actively criminaling. The danger here is in crying wolf when this isn't a case of rights being violated for a non-perpetrator. This guy was willfully breaking laws left and right. Don't cry wolf. We need that energy elsewhere.

The part where he sustained a head injury during arrest and was denied medical help is definitely a violation of his rights. The rest ... yeah

Yeah - even if George Floyd’s arrest was lawful, arresting him in using such violent force he died is certainly not. Saying “well he was a bad guy and had done bad things” doesn’t justify inflicting head injuries or holding a roadside execution.

Re: Man jailed for parole violations after refusing to decrypt his Tor node

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post #225

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> his overturned conviction only for wrong jurisdiction What are you getting at? If an appeals court says “wrong jurisdiction”, that’s an “rm -rf” on the whole entire case. There’s nothing left to argue about.

> > his overturned conviction only for wrong jurisdiction > What are you getting at? > If an appeals court says “wrong jurisdiction”, that’s an “rm -rf” on the whole entire case. There’s nothing left to argue about. I think your parent comment meant something like "the case wasn't overturned on the basis of deficiencies in the legal theory of the crime."

Generally this is a good thing to happen, because it's fairly quick and easy to argue you're in the wrong jurisdiction... and if that's the case, it doesn't matter what the legal theory was, since the court couldn't convict you anyway.

Perhaps selfishly, I'd rather get out of a trial in the motion to dismiss stage, rather than having to very-expensively argue the merits all the way to the end.

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