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Re: Hosting a website on a disposable vape

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Post by stockresearcher »

palata wrote: post #256
lapetitejort wrote: post #254

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Drawing the line will be the hardest part of writing a theoretical law banning electronics in disposable products. And the line will probably be obsolete a few weeks after the law takes effect. Which is why the line should be continuously drawn by a regulatory body, which in America are being an endangered species.

Make a list of tolerated disposable electronics. RFID chips, maybe (and even then, not sure how much they are needed). What else? I don't think that I consume disposable electronics every day...

So they’ll get rebranded as decorative plastic sticks with a bonus temporary vaping feature, and the packaging will say that you must never throw it away, ever.

I really hope you are starting to understand the difficulty in regulating products like this. A lot of people don’t want to do the right thing.

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Post by userbinator »

pbhjpbhj wrote: post #204
beAbU wrote: post #95

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I've been aware about the perfectly reusable lithium batteries inside these disposable vapes, which is egregious enough. But the one in the FTA comes with a full fat microcontroller and USB-C connector! I'm not clear if these connectors are accessible outside or if you need to break open the packaging before being able to get to it. Like you said: "Many layers of stupid are present here" All that hardware must surely…

>All that hardware must surely be worth more than half the value of the actual product! I'm constantly struck at how bread (a pastry, say) in a plastic tray, wrapped in plastic, is so crazy to me. The effort and technology that went, and goes, into oil extraction and such - only to throw the packaging away immediately that I get home ... it's just so unsustainable. I wonder when in the West we'll start mining rubbish…

As soon as there is demand, I'm sure they'll start mining. Provided it doesn't leave the planet, everything is recycled on a long enough timescale.

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Post by chuckadams »

gadders wrote: post #234
x187463 wrote: post #85

Re-using this sort of device is super cool. I can imagine a post-apocalyptic scenario where a city is run on a hodgepodge of random computing devices like this. I will say, though, disposable vapes with microcontrollers inside (and even full games and screens from recent reporting) are an egregious source of e-waste. Many layers of stupid are present here.

Disposable vapes were banned in the UK. Which in practise has meant that manufacturers have added the cheapest possible charging port which is non-standard so nobody can charge them and no way to open them to refill them. https://www.standard.co.uk/lifestyle/disposable-vape-ban-loo...

Maybe they should start charging a deposit per vape, and make the manufacturers pay the cost of recycling or proper disposal.

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Post by tlavoie »

vdupras wrote: post #295
tlavoie wrote: post #259

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OK, so we'd play with zForth then, as BogdanTheGeek notes here. That reminds me, I have a Scamp board sitting here on my desk that I really should play with more. https://udamonic.com/what-is-a-scamp.html

"we'd", you mean in a collapse scenario? Forths are, by nature, "collapse-friendly", but one particularity with Collapse OS and Dusk OS is that they are fully self-hosted. This includes the tools necessary to improve upon themselves. From a quick glance, it looks like BogdanTheGeek's Forth is written in C, which means that it's not self-hosted. If all you have is that disposable vape with this Forth in it, you lack t…

Good points! Really, I should start with learning Forth on the devices I have first, before getting to concerned about others. ARM does seem like a useful target though, given that they're basically everywhere these days.

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Post by greenavocado »

Rzor wrote: post #272
cjaackie wrote: post #244

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underrated comment, probably the way to go with an older chip and under 1k volumes.

And not even that hard to find: "alibaba MSM8916 LTE" on Google and lo and behold: https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/TIANJIE-Qualcomm-MSM8... $5.92 each for 500-2999 orders. What a time to be alive.

How much work is it to rip one of these open and reprogram?

Re: Hosting a website on a disposable vape

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Post by fragmede »

koliber wrote: post #276

How does the device compare to the computer we used to put a man on the moon?

Running at 24 Mhz, the vape is umpteen times faster but interestingly enough the AGC had 36 KiB of ROM while the vape only has 24 KiB. Umpteen is a technical term denoting that a straight comparison isn't possible, as the Cortex M0 does more in a single clock cycle than the AGC does but they're also different architectures and the programs running are different.

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Post by haunter »

marcosscriven wrote: post #298
SXX wrote: post #136

Talking of cheap and powerful devices one can also look at Chinese UZ801 4G LTE (Qualcomm MSM8916) dongles. They cost like only $4-5 and pack quite impressive HW: 4GB eMMC, 512MB RAM, actual 4G modem sometimes with 2 sim switching support. Since it's actually old Android SOC there is even GPU and GPS in there. And a lot of work was already done on supporting them: https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Zhihe_series_LTE_d…

Where do you get them for $5? Cheapest I can find is around £8 (11 USD), and it’s not clear if they have this chip.

Yeah you won't find them for $5 unless you buy in bulk on Alibaba

Aliexpress has this as the best selling one though the chipset is not confirmed https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006924641101.html

Well I take my gamble, wait 2 weeks and see what I'll get

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