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Researchers find evidence of ChatGPT buzzwords turning up in everyday speech

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Re: Researchers find evidence of ChatGPT buzzwords turning up in everyday speech

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This is how shitwords like "impactful" sneak into speech. Say it around me and I can see your credibility flow away like piss down your leg.

What an impactful thing to say! Do you actually think that or was your comment just to garner attention?

Re: Researchers find evidence of ChatGPT buzzwords turning up in everyday speech

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This is an odd misuse of the term "buzzword." When I think of buzzword, I think of some trendy, cliched phrase, like "Foocorp is a force multiplier that actualizes your vision for maximum impact." Using an ordinary but less commonly used word with greater than normal frequency does not make it a buzzword. After two years of chatgpt, "delve" is still not that common of a word.

Buzzword is a buzzword

Re: Researchers find evidence of ChatGPT buzzwords turning up in everyday speech

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I always used to google search "emdash unicode" and copy-paste the character, but I guess now I'll save several minutes from my essay-writing by switching to the lazy single-dash typology that I don't like the look of. Soon I'm going to have to start throwing in speling errors and other things too.

Mmm interesting point. The age of introducing error to prove humanity is upon us.

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Re: Researchers find evidence of ChatGPT buzzwords turning up in everyday speech

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My workaround (well, to be honest, I've always done this: I love a good em dash, they're terrifically satisfying to use, but I'm too lazy to type them), is to use two single dashes--like so.

Do you also end ambiguously questioning messages with a double dot..

No.

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Genuine question, do you actually use the formal emdash in your writing? AIs are very consistent about using the proper emdash—a double long dash with no spaces around it, whereas humans almost always tend to use a slang version - a single dash with spaces around it. That's because most keyboards don't have an emdash key, and few people even know how to produce an actual emdash. That's what makes it such a good givea…

> I'm happy to be told that I'm wrong I've found that people who say this sort of thing rarely change their beliefs, even after being given evidence that they are wrong. The fact is, as numerous people have pointed out, Word and other editors/word processors change '--' to an em-dash. And the "slang version" of an em-dash is "I went to work--but forgot to put on pants", not "I went to work - but forgot to put on pant…

P.S. Why would someone be "suspicious" of people doing their writing in Word and copying it into a comment field? Suspicious of what, exactly? What crime is being committed? The issue here is AI, not people's workflow methods. I have sometimes written lengthy comments in my editor (emacs) which gives me many more editing features, doesn't throw away my work with the wrong keystroke (not a problem at HN but it is at sites where the comment field is a pop-up), and doesn't randomly freeze or slow down radically (this seems to be a problem with my browser).

I reject everything else about that poorly reasoned "suspicious" response as well.

Re: Researchers find evidence of ChatGPT buzzwords turning up in everyday speech

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It could be worse, it could be 'learnings'. It's lessons. We don't go for 'drivings'. Though ChatGPT will probably force more nonsense like that into the mainstream. That's from the last decade. 'Please revert' seems to be from the 00's, it's 'reply'. There are others I've tried to ignore and forget. Language changes, and I'm a dinosaur unfortunately. I also love the fact American English sometimes uses better, or mo…

"Please revert" is standard in South African and Indian English. A regional difference rather than an oddity from a point in history.

Re: Researchers find evidence of ChatGPT buzzwords turning up in everyday speech

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In the "opinion" of ChatGPT, my style of writing is "academic". I'm not exactly sure why. Perhaps I draw from a vocabulary or turns of phrase that aren't necessarily characteristic of colloquial speech among native speakers. Technically, English wasn't my first language, so perhaps this is something like the case with RP English in Britain. Only foreigners speak it, so if you speak RP, then you aren't a native Brit.…

> In the "opinion" of ChatGPT, my style of writing is "academic". It may simply be glazing. If you ask it to estimate your IQ (if it complies), it will likely say >130 regardless of what you actually wrote. RLHF taught it that users like being praised.

That assumes the characterization is perceived as flattering, or that enough data on me would allow it to "think" it would be to me. Generally, given the anti-intellectual bias in American popular culture, I'm on the fence about that. But then, what are the biases of the corpus ChatGPT was trained on?

For context, I was asking GPT to rewrite some passage in the style of various authors, like Hemingway or Waugh. I didn't even ask it for an assessment of my writing; I was given that for free.

In retrospect (this was while ago), I think the passage may have been expository in character, so perhaps it is not much a mystery why it was characterized as "academic". (When I give it samples similar to mine now, I get "formal, academic, and analytical tone". Compare this to how it characterizes an article from The Register as written in an "informal and conversational tone", in part because of the "colloquial jargon" and "pop culture references"). So my RP comparison is sensible. And there's the question of social class as well. I don't exactly speak like a construction workers, as it were.

Re: Researchers find evidence of ChatGPT buzzwords turning up in everyday speech

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"Recent large-scale upticks in the use of words like “delve” and “intricate” in certain fields, especially education and academic writing, are attributed to the widespread introduction of LLMs with a chat function, like ChatGPT, that overuses those buzzwords." OK, but please don't do what pg did a year or so ago and dismiss anyone who wrote "delve" as AI writing. I've been using "delve" in speech for 15+ years. It's…

Same thing as with em dashes. Some of us have been using em dashes from before ChatGPT.

My English professor criticized me for allegedly excessive use of em dashes in 1973.

Once I started self-publishing in the 1990s, I disregarded her opinion.

Re: Researchers find evidence of ChatGPT buzzwords turning up in everyday speech

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Same thing as with em dashes. Some of us have been using em dashes from before ChatGPT.

Genuine question, do you actually use the formal emdash in your writing? AIs are very consistent about using the proper emdash—a double long dash with no spaces around it, whereas humans almost always tend to use a slang version - a single dash with spaces around it. That's because most keyboards don't have an emdash key, and few people even know how to produce an actual emdash. That's what makes it such a good givea…

I type em dashes as double hyphens. Sometimes the software resolves them to a true em dash, but sometimes not.

I never use hyphens where em dashes would be correct.

I do have issues determining when a two-word phrase should or shouldn't be hyphenated. It surely doesn't help that I grew up in a bilingual English/German household, so that my first instinct is often to reject either option, and fully concatenate the two words instead.

(Whether that last comma is appropriate opens a whole other set of punctuation issues ... and yes, I do tend to deliberately misuse ellipses for effect.)

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