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Re: Leaving Gmail for Mailbox.org

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I’ve been a Fastmail user for years, having left Gmail. It works great and have nothing be but praise for them. I use my own domain with them so if I decide to leave it’s not an issue worrying about updating people with my new email.

Fastmail is kind of a weird service. If you stop paying they release your email for someone else to take over. Pretty unacceptable this day and age.

Definitely not acceptable, sounds like not good thinking. Consumer protections might exist in the US for this.

Re: Leaving Gmail for Mailbox.org

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Moving your mailbox to something else doesn't stop gmail reading your mail every time you respond to someone who has their mail stored on Google. You'd have to ask for gmail's MX to be blocked perhaps.

Sadly I don't see a way around it unless you use PGP and the secret key is kept client side.

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>Proton Using proton as well, but if you're stuck on the free tier you can't use any 3rd party email clients. >YouTube Using Google takeout for Youtube will give you a .csv of your subscriptions and playlists (just be sure to un-check getting a download of your videos). From there you can get the rss feeds and use RSSguard as a subscription viewer/media player, this site was a big help in figuring things out https://…

I love Proton but the idea of subscribing and committing to renew annually is a turn off. There's probably be a huge market behind the psychology of this. They should offer a lifetime option for the core service and monetize the add-ons and new features.

Paying for a service that you use on an ongoing basis and that is very important (like email) is probably the best possible choice, since it aligns what you're paying for and what the company is working on. In the model you suggest the core service will atrophy slowly because the money is in the add-ons. This is why I'm happy to pay annually for my Fastmail account.

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> supports Graphene but there are too many trade-offs there What are the tradeoffs? I have been following GrapheneOS for a while, and it doesn't seem like there are many tradeoffs. > OpenStreetMap is still really hard to use and gives bad directions. OpenStreetMap is a database, and most commercial services that are not Google use it. E.g. Uber or Lyft. You just need to find an app that you like. CoMaps is nice, OSMA…

Someone showed me OSMAnd recently while we were hiking. I installed it as soon as I got home. Great for hiking. Then last week I used it for navigation (on a phone with no SIM card). Absolutely. Terrible. Worst navigation app I've seen. Told me to make a turn at an intersection that did not allow turns. Then at another intersection, it told me to "Turn left", but the display clearly showed it going straight. I'm gues…

This is a really interesting feedback. I've used OSMand for maybe five years, and never had issues like you're describing. I've always felt that the search was absolutely awful, so I used Google Maps for that and then put the points of interest into my map. Nevertheless, I find the display particularly dense and confusing to configure, and so I also have been using Organic Maps lately, which may provide a simplified experience that's a bit more polished.

I wonder if there was some issue with the map data in the area you were driving in that led to the issues you experienced. I've used OSMand in Belize, Mexico, California, Connecticut, New York, New Hampshire, Vermont, and Maine and had a good experience, especially with the offline maps.

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>Proton Using proton as well, but if you're stuck on the free tier you can't use any 3rd party email clients. >YouTube Using Google takeout for Youtube will give you a .csv of your subscriptions and playlists (just be sure to un-check getting a download of your videos). From there you can get the rss feeds and use RSSguard as a subscription viewer/media player, this site was a big help in figuring things out https://…

I love Proton but the idea of subscribing and committing to renew annually is a turn off. There's probably be a huge market behind the psychology of this. They should offer a lifetime option for the core service and monetize the add-ons and new features.

That's exactly the reason why so many people prefer giving up their data, their privacy, their freedom.

Personally I'm happy to pay proton a few bucks a month to not have to give up those things.

I'm not criticizing those that do, just that given my financial situation the trade off is simply not worth it.

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> supports Graphene but there are too many trade-offs there What are the tradeoffs? I have been following GrapheneOS for a while, and it doesn't seem like there are many tradeoffs. > OpenStreetMap is still really hard to use and gives bad directions. OpenStreetMap is a database, and most commercial services that are not Google use it. E.g. Uber or Lyft. You just need to find an app that you like. CoMaps is nice, OSMA…

Can you use GrapheneOS with your bank app? With a digital wallet for NFC cards? With Uber or Lyft? (Asking seriously, not rhetorically.)

I use it with my bank app ymmv

Re: Leaving Gmail for Mailbox.org

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For an open source Android app for OpenStreetMap data, I like Organic Maps, and it normally works great with locally-cached maps. I've had better luck with it than with Google Maps or Apple Maps on phones. (Though, I should mention that twice in the last year I've had Organic Maps become hopelessly confused about where I was, and where I should go. Both times, it had gotten a good GPS location, but then got confused…

Regarding Organic Maps: I would recommend keeping tabs on what is happening there since this year. They seem to be having significant governance issues. https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/organic-maps-open-lett... Short story: forget Organic Maps, use successor CoMaps or competitor OsmAnd. https://www.comaps.app/about-us/

I was vaguely aware of this drama but hadn't looked into it. After reading through your link, I've switched over to Comaps. I don't like lack of transparency in community driven projects. Appreciate the flag!

Re: Leaving Gmail for Mailbox.org

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Don’t do it! We are just switching back from mailbox.org to Google.

- OXdrive is terrible and does not retain file backups like Dropbox or Google Drive. Nearly lost a lot of files when a co-worker deleted his duplicate OXdrive folder.

- NO 2-factor for the business tariff. Major red flag, especially for a company that claims privacy focus.

- Very low functionality software suite.

Etherpad - I cannot figure out a use case

OX office suite: Every cloud alternative is so much better.

Video conferencing: No single sign on across mailbox.org meaning you have to login again to setup a meeting.

Email client still has only a Folder philosophy- tags would be so much better.

All in all we had high spirits but were very disappointed by the pretty bad feature set. For private Email it might be fine.

Still would never recommend it after 8 month of use.

Re: Leaving Gmail for Mailbox.org

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> Do that, it's a non-issue I think the issue is why use an email provider that has designed such a glaring security hole into their system? Does it not raise questions about their judgment in other matters that are less visible to the user?

First, it’s not been established that they do have that security hole. Someone upthread said the email address they used during a fastmail trial was no longer available when they tried to sign up later because they didn’t want to give out the address again. Second, and I don’t know how much weight this carries - but I personally know some of the people on the Fastmail team. They’re some of the most thoughtful, steady…

You can find several discussions of this practice online, including people commenting that they receive email for previous holders of those ids.

The commenter above may have never deleted the alias to release it for reuse.

Reusing email addresses is pretty universally considered terrible practice. So you may want to discuss it with your friends there.

Re: Leaving Gmail for Mailbox.org

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I love Proton but the idea of subscribing and committing to renew annually is a turn off. There's probably be a huge market behind the psychology of this. They should offer a lifetime option for the core service and monetize the add-ons and new features.

That's exactly the reason why so many people prefer giving up their data, their privacy, their freedom. Personally I'm happy to pay proton a few bucks a month to not have to give up those things. I'm not criticizing those that do, just that given my financial situation the trade off is simply not worth it.

Hushmail was great for me, until I couldn't reclaim my inbox after the subscription expired (but there's no free option).

Other services deprecate or get weird. Hopefully Proton keeps going in the good direction.

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