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Re: FFmpeg moves to Forgejo

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Post by Aurornis »

jraph wrote: post #218
eviks wrote: post #216

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> beyond reasonable levels for reasons I'd love to get an explanation for. Since you're ignoring the reasons by calling them unreasonable, the armchair psychology alternative won't help get you what you love

I'm not calling people or reasons unreasonable, but the level at which they are triggered. And I stand by my point: being mad that someone chooses to self host is unreasonable and no amount of accusing me of doing armchair psychology will change anything to this.

There’s an irony to becoming so triggered by a couple angry comments that you become triggered and leave your own angry comments.

Re: FFmpeg moves to Forgejo

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Post by Aurornis »

rs186 wrote: post #266
Aurornis wrote: post #163

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The friction and overhead of mailing list development is seen as a feature, not a bug, for certain devs who prefer an exclusive environment. Moving to a modern platform with real collaborative development features is a mature move.

I have seen people arguing "mailing patches is better than github" more than once here on HN. I am like, whatever.

Some times HN comments are a time machine that reveal people stuck in the past who hate anything modern.

A couple weeks back someone was arguing that websites these days are too slow. So slow that it took them minutes of waiting time to order something online. Then they revealed that they were using a computer that was nearly two decades old and didn’t even have enough RAM to meet the requirements of a modern OS and browser. “But it should work!” was their refrain.

Re: FFmpeg moves to Forgejo

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Post by bastawhiz »

asveikau wrote: post #22
mgraczyk wrote: post #19

The site doesn't load any css for me on mobile, is it really worth it not to use GitHub or gitlab?

I had that issue after it "verified I'm a human", I refreshed and it looked fine.

I have refreshed a few times and the styles still aren't loading

Re: FFmpeg moves to Forgejo

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Post by dinkleberg »

esperent wrote: post #37

Opening this site I get "Oh Noes! Invalid Response" with an anime girl. Tried refreshing, opening in a private windows, same thing. EDIT: tried it again and got to "Making sure you're not a bot" with the same cringey anime girl, then the site loaded without CSS. Tried one more time, finally it loaded. EDIT 2: clicked on a link and I'm back to "Oh Noes!..." .

I can't get past the gate on my Linux workstation. But on my Mac, using the same browser with the same extensions, it works fine.

Re: FFmpeg moves to Forgejo

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Post by ehutch79 »

BoredPositron wrote: post #244
reconvene1290 wrote: post #238

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It’s all in the approach: start with a “thank you for the project”, and a “hope you don’t mind but I’ve corrected a few typos” and nobody will shout you down. Only go with a blank PR description and it’ll come across as arrogant and spammy.

There are people hunting double spaces or typos in code? For what contributor credits?

Yes.

There’s also a couple of video tutorials that show how to make a pr, using node or nom on GitHub, and people just follow the tutorial verbatim, not thinking about what they’re actually doing.

Re: FFmpeg moves to Forgejo

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Post by debugnik »

kelnos wrote: post #166
TJSomething wrote: post #130

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I think you've got the logic backwards. It defaults to assuming that user agents that have "Mozilla" in them might be bots. Uncommon browsers don't get challenged. It wouldn't make sense for bad faith bots to use uncommon, easy to block user agents.

All real browsers have Mozilla in the user agent string.

The point is to allow bots that play nice and don't claim to be real browsers, as those can be identified in logs and blocked or rate limited fairly. But bad faith bots can be undistinguishable from browsers, so everyone else gets a PoW challenge to make their endeavour slower and expensive.

At least that's the spirit, of course someone will eventually just use random strings as user agents, but then again this is all a tragedy of the commons anyway.

Re: FFmpeg moves to Forgejo

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Post by necovek »

bakugo wrote: post #201
delta_p_delta_x wrote: post #187

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> If you're going to force people to stare at a screen with nothing but your quirky anime girl OC for a few seconds every time they visit your website It is a damn sight better than the maliciously-compliant and deeply annoying GDPR 'we use cookies' banners, pop-ups, and dark patterns like having to uncheck thousands of 'partner' boxes. This is merely a response to AI companies abusing scraper bots and having a callo…

> Cartoons are metaphors and windows into the artist's frame of mind. Maybe they are. But, in this case, nobody cares about the "artist's frame of mind". We care about accessing a website that has nothing to do with art.

Are you having actual, real problems accessing the source code due to the anime character being used in the bot-blocker?

Re: FFmpeg moves to Forgejo

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Post by alsetmusic »

strken wrote: post #272
BoredPositron wrote: post #244

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There are people hunting double spaces or typos in code? For what contributor credits?

I fix documentation typos or broken links because they really annoy me. There are some egregious examples of people doing it for GitHub-as-a-social-network reasons, but I think some are like me and just want to fix the writing.

I similarly contribute only minor language and writing corrections to Wikipedia, and usually anonymously (unless my phone has randomly pulled a blocked IP and I need to sign in). I don’t consider myself enough of an expert in any Wiki-worthy topic to do anything more, but I’ll make damn sure small mistakes get addressed.

I feel even less qualified to contribute corrections on GitHub mostly for the same reasons mentioned above. Staying anonymous prevents anyone from thinking I’m attempting to capitalize on low hanging fruit.

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Post by cma »

clickety_clack wrote: post #80
mpalmer wrote: post #60

With the calm, respectful understanding that everything is subjective and there's no accounting for taste - and in my personal capacity - I do not understand how cutesy anime characters have been deemed sufficiently tasteful/professional/anodyne enough to be displayed to literally every single person who visits my site. With apologies to fans of the art style, it is a negative signal to me. I do not prefer to use Clo…

I respect the expression of individual taste, but it suggests strongly that the platform has not reached professional maturity.

Professional maturity: https://www.reddit.com/r/graphic_design/comments/kv5651/what...

Re: FFmpeg moves to Forgejo

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Post by layer8 »

reconvene1290 wrote: post #238
Aurornis wrote: post #171

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Rejecting useless or white space-only PRs is quick and easy. It’s not as big of a problem as you’re suggesting. I’ve gone through a few projects and updated the documentation as I explored the codebase. Reception ranges from thankful to people scorning me for attempting to make contributions that weren’t code changes. It’s frustrating when maintainers are more interested in keeping people out than in considering actu…

It’s all in the approach: start with a “thank you for the project”, and a “hope you don’t mind but I’ve corrected a few typos” and nobody will shout you down. Only go with a blank PR description and it’ll come across as arrogant and spammy.

As a counterpoint, these kinds of formulaic ingratiating preambles turn me off. Get to the point of your PR, so I can judge on its merits!
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