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Re: uBlock Origin Lite now available for Safari

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Post by gkoberger »

badosu wrote: post #294

I don't understand why someone, with some technical education, would use any chromium based browser instead of firefox, any ideas?

I used to work at Mozilla.

Safari isn't Chromium (it's the opposite, Google forked WebKit and they've diverged). But that's not really your point.

There's a lot of reason to use Chrome: deep integration with Google (privacy issues aside, it's really useful), better add-on dev ecosystem which leads to better add-ons, WebKit was far ahead of Gecko for a while, I personally prefer the devtools in Chrome, developers tend to verify their website works more in Chrome so fewer bugs, iOS is webkit-only, etc.

Firefox is a great browser, especially now. But so is Chrome.

Re: uBlock Origin Lite now available for Safari

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Post by saagarjha »

gorhill wrote: post #187
operator-name wrote: post #57

Just tested it out on iOS. It’s scored 94% against Adguard’s 79% on this test page: https://adblock.turtlecute.org/

Those webpages used to "test" blockers are frowned upon, see: https://x.com/gorhill/status/1583581072197312512 There are many reasons that sort of online tools are not able to reliably test a content blocker: - Many content blockers are designed to fool pages to think no content blocker is installed - Content blockers filter according to real, actual cases, not synthetic cases used in their tests

Would you be supportive of an "adblock test page" that literally just reports if the adblocker is working correctly, rather than how good it is? Like maybe an EICAR-like rule that is added to EasyList that matches an element on that page?

Re: uBlock Origin Lite now available for Safari

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Post by zevon »

dylan604 wrote: post #230
zelphirkalt wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is mind-boggling, how in this day and age search functions can still be soooo bad in so many places on the web and inside applications. At the very least a 100% substring match should be very visible in the result. If not at the top, then there should be sorting criteria, to make it appear at the top, so that one can sane-ify the search result, when it is not sane. A good example for bad search is the windows star…

It helps to realize that the search is less of a tool for you to find information and more of a tool to show you an ad targeted on your search query. That's why ads are the top results and the organic data you wanted is after the fold. You're asking an ad company for information, and you don't expect an ad as a result? They are only continuing to show the organic results to tease you into coming back..

The original comment was about Apple's App Store. I assume there are financial ways to get your App "featured" there or something like that but as far as I know, you can't financially take direct influence on whatever logic Apple uses to sort search results there. Yet, it can still be spectacularly difficult to find an App - even if you type in its exact name, as indicated by OP (can confirm from my experience).

If you have a theory about what Apple's motivation to actively serve such bad results could be, I'd be interested to hear it. I've always sort of assumed that the root cause for this is some combination of neglect on Apple's part and attempts at gaming the system by developers (I don't know much about developing for the App Store, but I presume there are forms of SEO-like activities that can be done in attempts to bump up your app).

Re: uBlock Origin Lite now available for Safari

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Post by [deleted] »

tomalpha wrote: post #23

I just searched within the (edit: iOS App Store) App Store app for ublock origin lite “ublock origin lite” For the unquoted search, there are twelve different apps/items returned above it - you really have to scroll down to find it at number 13. Even for the quoted search, it’s returned in fourth place. More interestingly the second time I searched with quoted it’s in third place, and the third time of searching the…

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Re: uBlock Origin Lite now available for Safari

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Post by saagarjha »

MortyWaves wrote: post #299
apozem wrote: post #277

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> It installs, opening it is a simple message saying I need to enable it in Safari settings. Strange, but ok. I’ve made several Safari extensions for iOS, and they all have to do this. Apple provides no API for an app to enable its own Safari extension. It also has no public API on iOS to deeplink to the Settings page for enabling the extension. You just have to tell users where to go and hope they don’t get lost. (T…

Does an app for that even need to exist? Why can’t extensions be a standalone thing in the store?

Because Apple's distribution model centers around everything being bundled as an app

Re: uBlock Origin Lite now available for Safari

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Post by lapcat »

saagarjha wrote: post #300
lapcat wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> the blocking webRequest API (which Safari never supported) This is inaccurate. Safari (Mac) supported it until 2019, and indeed there was a version of uBlock Origin for Safari back then.

I don't think uBlock Origin ever supported Safari?

https://github.com/el1t/uBlock-Safari/issues/158

Re: uBlock Origin Lite now available for Safari

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Post by fsflover »

deanishe wrote: post #293
dylan604 wrote: post #230

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It helps to realize that the search is less of a tool for you to find information and more of a tool to show you an ad targeted on your search query. That's why ads are the top results and the organic data you wanted is after the fold. You're asking an ad company for information, and you don't expect an ad as a result? They are only continuing to show the organic results to tease you into coming back..

Is Apple really an ad company? I think it's reasonable to expect better from them.

They aim to become one:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34299433

https://www.macrumors.com/2024/11/19/apple-now-directly-sell...

https://appleinsider.com/articles/24/04/10/apple-makes-it-re...

Re: uBlock Origin Lite now available for Safari

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Post by eikenberry »

gorhill wrote: post #187
operator-name wrote: post #57

Just tested it out on iOS. It’s scored 94% against Adguard’s 79% on this test page: https://adblock.turtlecute.org/

Those webpages used to "test" blockers are frowned upon, see: https://x.com/gorhill/status/1583581072197312512 There are many reasons that sort of online tools are not able to reliably test a content blocker: - Many content blockers are designed to fool pages to think no content blocker is installed - Content blockers filter according to real, actual cases, not synthetic cases used in their tests

I just tested with Firefox and uBlock Origin in the stricter "medium mode" and got a score of 1%. So yeah, I don't think these test pages are that great.

Re: uBlock Origin Lite now available for Safari

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Post by const_cast »

cptskippy wrote: post #186
lhamil64 wrote: post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The search in Google Messages on Android is completely useless too. It seems like it only searches within the past few days or something, if I try searching for something from a while back it never finds it. And they removed the feature to quickly scroll back to a date in the past, so the only way to dig up old texts is to manually scroll back in a conversation and hope you find it. It's absolutely ridiculous that th…

> The search in Google Messages on Android is completely useless too. It's literally all Google products. They've just simplified and contextualized and added other things over the years such that if you're not searching for something already above the fold then it won't show up. When I was using Gmail I had an email with important information that I needed about once a year. I knew the exact subject and who it was f…

Thunderbird search is one of the best I've ever seen. Very granular options. Highly recommend.
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