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Post by 2OEH8eoCRo0 »

esseph wrote: post #270
2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ground News worries me because now we don't need to use our brains the app just tells me the bias! Ground News could be biased! Leads to shallow discussion where all news sources are tossed out for bias leaving nothing (or what ground news wants you to listen to). God forbid we critically examine for ourselves the information we consume.

This makes 0 sense Ground news links all of their sources on a per article basis and you can simply scroll left/right through each news source. And you can add your own sources!

You didn't address the meat of my argument. The sources are irrelevant. They try to tell you the media bias which can itself be biased and gamed and which (I think) leads to readers not critically examining sources for themselves.

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Post by Kye »

bitlax wrote: post #298
Kye wrote: post #291

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I asked what you mean. You're wasting all our time to drop a phrase that's completely meaningless on its own without defining it.

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What's the point in dropping that in the middle of a thread if not to participate in the discussion? I abide the HN guideline that asks us to assume the best, so I assume your intent is to be part of a discussion and not just stir shit up and bolt when someone takes you seriously and asks you to expand on your point of view.

Say what you mean or go away.

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Post by Goronmon »

unnamed76ri wrote: post #226
BeetleB wrote: post #129

I identify neither as a liberal nor as a conservative, but outsiders will likely see a left bent in me. The thing about PBS and NPR: I just don't have any alternatives! Wherever I've lived, all the other radio stations/channels just suck - liberal or not. MSNBC, CNN, Fox News totally suck. ABC, CBS, NBC mostly suck. The half-good radio stations are just way too biased and make NPR/PBS appear like paragons of neutralt…

I’ll listen to snippets of right wing talk radio but it generally doesn’t take long before the exaggeration (Glenn Beck) or Trump idol worship (Clay Travis) get annoying. I like hearing perspectives on stories that I won’t hear elsewhere but in general, I don’t need very much political news in my life. I’m happier spending my time on audio books and podcasts. I’m not sure I’ve ever engaged with NPR beyond seeing cons…

I’ll listen to snippets of right wing talk radio but it generally doesn’t take long before the exaggeration (Glenn Beck) or Trump idol worship (Clay Travis) get annoying.

I remember being in the gym and catching some coverage of Fox News on Trumps trade war and potential deals. I believe the quote from one of the people talking was something like:

"We don't know the specifics about what's in this deal but we do know that this is a huge win for American businesses and the American people."

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Post by tzs »

NoMoreNicksLeft wrote: post #227
wffurr wrote: post #164

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Sesame Street used the term "rusty trombone" in a song by Oscar the Grouch about the wonderful things you can find in trash, written and performed 30 years before there is any documented use of the term "rusty trombone" to refer to a sex position.

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Post by Boogie_Man »

legitster wrote: post #268
Boogie_Man wrote: post #183

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't want to be "that guy", but I often find myself as the "intolerable lib" in some situations and the "intolerable con" in others, so here we go: There is a degree of quasi-political messaging in PBS children's shows. I can say this because I've watched more hours than I'd like of several of them, but I'd like to focus on on Molly Of Denali. It's a good children's show about an inuit girl who lives in Alaska and…

Counterpoint, when these episodes were first aired, these weren't viewed as political issues. Only in response to these ideas have they become politicized. And since PBS has backed away from making episodes like these.

I might be missing what you mean, but I tried to explain as best as I could how I would understand these things to be "related to "politics" ".

Offensiveness of difficultly in pronouncing native Alaskan name - I believe this would be grouped under the umbrella of something like "linguistic imperialism" by people of particular political bents, which is an issue that at least heavily relates to politics.

Land acknowledgements - As far as I can tell, these have always been politicized because they originated "with indigenous Australian political movements and the arts" at least according to Wikipedia. I don't know much about the subject

Rude clueless white trope - I think this is to some extent a "positive" inversion of the "noble savage" trope, which Wikipedia tells me was historically political.

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Post by Klonoar »

SV_BubbleTime wrote: post #192
legitster wrote: post #38

Contrary to the conservative spin over the years, I have found public broadcasting to be one of the least biased sources of headline news and information available. (For their national broadcasts at least - local ... can be hit or miss). In particular, their kids programming is the absolute best. Nothing flashy or exciting, but it's laser focused on education and has zero agenda. And the PBS kids apps are one of the…

>Contrary to the conservative spin over the years, I have found public broadcasting to be one of the least biased sources Can we break this down? You open with a effectively derogatory accusation about conservatives making things up…which I have no opinion on. That immediately shows your own likely liberal bias and then you say you saw no problem with the programming. Isn’t that exactly the issue? That you saw no iss…

One does not need to hold liberal bias to identify conservative spin.

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Post by deadbabe »

tptacek wrote: post #296

This is a giant thread full of people lamenting the demise of public broadcasting so it seems like someone should write the comment that points out that CPB doesn't do PBS programming. They don't develop content. They're a grantmaking organization that manages the distribution of the congressional PBS appropriation. The actual PBS and NPR shows you're familiar with are generally developed and produced privately, and…

I mean you kind of made it sound not too bad at all.

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Post by mcphage »

Boogie_Man wrote: post #183
legitster wrote: post #38

Contrary to the conservative spin over the years, I have found public broadcasting to be one of the least biased sources of headline news and information available. (For their national broadcasts at least - local ... can be hit or miss). In particular, their kids programming is the absolute best. Nothing flashy or exciting, but it's laser focused on education and has zero agenda. And the PBS kids apps are one of the…

I don't want to be "that guy", but I often find myself as the "intolerable lib" in some situations and the "intolerable con" in others, so here we go: There is a degree of quasi-political messaging in PBS children's shows. I can say this because I've watched more hours than I'd like of several of them, but I'd like to focus on on Molly Of Denali. It's a good children's show about an inuit girl who lives in Alaska and…

> When I say it's political, I mean that it makes points without nuance on historical and current issues which range from widely accepted and important ideas [...] to what I would consider less widely agreed upon and important ideas

Another example of this: when Mr. Rogers invited an African American neighbor to share his pool. It certainly wasn't widely agreed upon at the time.

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Post by asadotzler »

munchler wrote: post #65
dpe82 wrote: post #39

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Hasn't it been largely free of interference up until now? And would you prefer it suffer from corporate interference like all other media?

It's been a political football for decades. Conservatives use it as an example of liberal spending run amok, so public broadcasting has had to constantly look over its shoulder during that time. No, I would like to eliminate corporate influence as well, but that might not be possible in a capitalist society.

Take a tax supported public good, remove the public support and then claim to worry about corporate influence? What do you think was holding that corporate influence at bay?
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