OpenAI claims gold-medal performance at IMO 2025

Post by nurettin » Sat, Jul 19, 2025, 5:21 PM UTC

kilna wrote: post #262

uludag wrote: post #212

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Cynicism and denial are two very different things, and have very different causes and justifications. I personally don't deny that LLMs are very powerful and are capable and capable of eliminating many jobs. At the same time I'm very cynical about the rollout and push for AI. I don't see in any way as a push for a "better" society or towards some notion of progress, but rather an enthusiastic effort to disempower emp…

AI is kerosene. A useful resource when applied with reason and compassion. Late stage capitalism is a dumpster full of garbage. AI in combination with late stage capitalism is a dumpster fire. Many, perhaps most people conflate the dumpster fire with "kerosine evil!"

Post by gniv » Sat, Jul 19, 2025, 5:25 PM UTC

csomar wrote: post #137

The issue is that trust is very hard to build and very easy to lose. Even in today's age where regular humans have a memory span shorter than that of an LLM, OpenAI keeps abusing the public's trust. As a result, I take their word on AI/LLMs about as seriously as I'd take my grocery store clerk's opinion on quantum physics.

Post by drexlspivey » Sat, Jul 19, 2025, 5:28 PM UTC

sailingparrot wrote: post #256

z7 wrote: post #9

Some previous predictions: In 2021 Paul Christiano wrote he would update from 30% to "50% chance of hard takeoff" if we saw an IMO gold by 2025. He thought there was an 8% chance of this happening. Eliezer Yudkowsky said "at least 16%". Source: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/sWLLdG6DWJEy3CH7n/imo-challe...

Off topic, but am I the only one getting triggered every time I see a rationalist quantify their prediction of the future with single digit accuracy? It's like their magic way of trying to get everyone to forget that they reached their conclusion in completely hand-wavy way, just like every other human being. But instead of saying "low confidence" or "high confidence" like the rest of us normies, they will tell you t…

Post by tootyskooty » Sat, Jul 19, 2025, 5:29 PM UTC

aerhardt wrote: post #254

Davidzheng wrote: post #191

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I can save you the click. Public models (gemini/o3) are less than bronze. this is a specially trained model which is not publicly available.

Is the conclusion that elite models are being withheld from the public, or that general models are not that general?

Post by dang » Sat, Jul 19, 2025, 5:32 PM UTC

userabchn wrote: post #241

mikert89 wrote: post #133

The cynicism/denial on HN about AI is exhausting. Half the comments are some weird form of explaining away the ever increasing performance of these models I've been reading this website for probably 15 years, its never been this bad. many threads are completely unreadable, all the actual educated takes are on X, its almost like there was a talent drain

HN doesn't have a strong enough protection against bots, so foreign influence campaign bots with the goal of spreading negative sentiment about American technology companies are, I believe, very common here.