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A Typology of Canadianisms

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Re: A Typology of Canadianisms

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Post by js2 »

madcaptenor wrote: post #264
ShroudedNight wrote: post #238

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I'm surprised "Four Oh [X]" is specifically a Canadianism. I would have expected it to manifest more broadly, given things like: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/409_(song)

The Atlanta area code is definitely "four-oh-four" (and also the HTTP error)

I'm confused. How else would you pronounce it? Four hundred and four? Four-zero-four? That's just weird. :-)

I don't think I don't ever use "oh" for zero. FWIW, I'm from South Florida with New Jersey parents. The area code I grew up with is "three-oh-five".

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Post by madcaptenor »

js2 wrote: post #301
madcaptenor wrote: post #264

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The Atlanta area code is definitely "four-oh-four" (and also the HTTP error)

I'm confused. How else would you pronounce it? Four hundred and four? Four-zero-four? That's just weird. :-) I don't think I don't ever use "oh" for zero. FWIW, I'm from South Florida with New Jersey parents. The area code I grew up with is "three-oh-five".

I think it might be different for area codes that end in a zero - I remember 610 (Philly area, where I grew up) usually being pronounced "six-ten". On the other hand, 215 was always "two-one-five", never "two-fifteen". But I agree for those with zero in the middle, like 404 or 305.

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Post by madcaptenor »

regus wrote: post #81

I have a sure fire method for detecting Canadians out in the wild. Pay close attention to how they pronounce the word “resources”. If you hear the letter Z in there then they are probably Canadian.

Most people who refer to "North Americans" collectively are Canadian. People in the US can forget Canada exists. People in Canada can't forget the US exist and so they need a term that includes both.

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Post by keoneflick »

ande-mnoc wrote: post #297
keoneflick wrote: post #287

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She died because she didn't speak french and the staff laughed at her rather than try to communicate with her. If you think racism in Quebec doesn't have a connection with language, you are dangerously misinformed.

Did you actually read the article? Because I did. The case was well reported in media and they basically all agree that it’s a symptom of systemic racism against Indigenous people in Canada. The hospital staff thought she was on welfare based on her ethnicity in this case, or straight out “bet” on the patient’s blood level in another case in BC the same year. She would have got the same treatment even if she spoke Fr…

I am well read on this case.

> She would have got the same treatment even if she spoke French.

This is simply untrue and I would be happy to hear a source for your position. It happens to allophones and white presenting anglophones:

https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/article/anglophone-accuses-fre...

Feel free to have the last word. My last word is leaving Quebec and never coming back.

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Post by ande-mnoc »

keoneflick wrote: post #304
ande-mnoc wrote: post #297

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Did you actually read the article? Because I did. The case was well reported in media and they basically all agree that it’s a symptom of systemic racism against Indigenous people in Canada. The hospital staff thought she was on welfare based on her ethnicity in this case, or straight out “bet” on the patient’s blood level in another case in BC the same year. She would have got the same treatment even if she spoke Fr…

I am well read on this case. > She would have got the same treatment even if she spoke French. This is simply untrue and I would be happy to hear a source for your position. It happens to allophones and white presenting anglophones: https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/article/anglophone-accuses-fre... Feel free to have the last word. My last word is leaving Quebec and never coming back.

I mean, if you read the entire story and all the horrific incidents happening to Indigenous people across the country and still made it about yourself, not much I can say about it.

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Post by throwawaymaths »

talos_ wrote: post #247
werdnapk wrote: post #203

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Quebec has it's own dictionary.

Office Québécois de la Langue Française (OQLF) promotes the french language and adapt new English words (whereas France typically integrate English words in their vocab). The website Banque de dépannage linguistique (BDL) will have a lot of useful resources if you're interested! For instance, how to write a professional sounding email, names of official documents, invoice templates. Highlights (good and bad): * email…

oh cool pourriels is amazing. Contrastingly the continental "mail" for "email" is... disappointing?

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Post by sillywalk »

nsavage wrote: post #168

This is excellent stuff, I am going to be spending a lot of time on this. My absolute favourite Canadianism is how, on wikipedia, the 401 (major highway that goes through Toronto) is "colloquially referred to as the four-oh-one" ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ontario_Highway_401 ).

I'm genuinely curious what else it would be called. I live 5Kms away from it, and that's just "what it's called."

Four zero one? Or Four-Hundred and One?

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Post by sillywalk »

ShroudedNight wrote: post #243
dmalik wrote: post #146

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In Ontario "two-six" is called a twixer

"Twixer" must be relatively new, or more specific regionalism. I've only known them to be called "twenty-sixers"

Same here. Also, 13 oz is a 'mickey', and the 3L is a "Texas mickey". (I noticed I did ounces and litres)

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Post by sellmesoap »

switchbak wrote: post #113
qualeed wrote: post #54

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BC, AB, ON. Same as you, brown bread = whole wheat. Not sure I've even heard of molasses-sweetened bread, let alone eaten it.

https://www.crosbys.com/sarahs-molasses-brown-bread/ It’s made with ungodly amounts of molasses. My grandmother used to make it with lard or shortening, yikes.

Molasses has a lot of minerals in it, and the notion that eating fat makes you fat is a lie purpitrated by big sugar/grain that has lead to a lot of diabetes and heart desease, your grandmother knew where it was at! Also Big Sugar is an underrated band from Canada IMO
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